"ah Man!, I'm going! That's all there is to it; I'm fucking going."

I think the US could have socialism but it would probably have to bring back segregation or do mass deportations of non-whites. It seems like only homogenous nations can bring about the system and like it.

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I didn't mean to sound racist, but the theory that America's multi-racial nature is why socialism and labor politics is so weak is a fairly popular one. See the book "It Didn't Happen Here: Why Socialism Failed in the United States." Historically the American South was very socialistic, more so than the Northeast and West parts of the country. The biggest supporters of FDR's New Deals were Southerners. Once the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed though, the South went Republican. People wanted wealth redistribution amongst whites, but not amongst whites and blacks.

If you take a look at where white liberals are most popular, they tend to be in areas where there are few native americans, blacks, or latinos. San Francisco, for example, has few blacks or latinos and is considered one of the most liberal cities in the US. Meanwhile, Oakland, just across the bay, is a black city but it seems most whites are conservative there. You put a significant number of blacks and whites together, and the two sides are going to move to polar opposites on the political spectrum. The economic and educational achievement rates are too different between the two groups, and thus sympathetic feelings towards equality and socialism drop.

>> ^jerryku:
I think the US could have socialism but it would probably have to bring back segregation or do mass deportations of non-whites. It seems like only homogenous nations can bring about the system and like it.


Britain and Australia are both leftward leaning democratic socialist nations.

We both have healthy diversity in race/creed/colour.

You put a significant number of blacks and whites together, and the two sides are going to move to polar opposites on the political spectrum.

Which is inherent because people still see in colour rather than just another fellow human being.

And I'm not saying that it's perfect in the UK or Aus, we have our racial tensions as well, just noting that a melted pot is not an excuse not to socialism... =)

/Do the socialism baby!!

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Since when does San Francisco have few Blacks and Latinos (8% Black, 14% Latino). The entire bay area is liberal and it's pretty diverse, with counties up to 15% Black or 24% Latino, and major concentrations of many ethnic groups within each county. And then there is the huge Asian fraction of the population (31% in SF).

He had me at: "Frodo Baggins couldn't see how broken his country was"

Who said Sweden is a homogenous nation without ethnical diversity?