Ouch.

To anyone who got in my face for implying that liberals are less susceptible to groupthink than conservatives, here's exactly what I was talking about, in spades.

First you have the obviously fractious nature of the movement itself that Jon's playing off of. That happens all too often in liberal political activism, just look at how divided and nasty liberals got over health care.

But the deeper problem is that this is what Jon did with it -- make disharmony and fractiousness look like some sort of giant, soul-rending hypocrisy. To have a liberal like Jon Stewart going out and trumpeting the idea that the Occupy movement is both disorganized and deeply hypocritical is the kind of thing only the left does to itself. You don't see anyone on the right going out and doing a hit job like this on the Tea Party, ever.

I'm especially mad that this is essentially all he had to say in response to the huge police action that went down at OWS just the other day -- great shame the movement got cut short by jackbooted thugs, but don't worry, it was meaningless and not going anywhere anyways.

I love you Jon, but for fuck's sake, can't you find some way to dial the self-destructive BS back a bit?

>> ^NetRunner:

To anyone who got in my face for implying that liberals are less susceptible to groupthink than conservatives, here's exactly what I was talking about, in spades.
First you have the obviously fractious nature of the movement itself that Jon's playing off of. That happens all too often in liberal political activism, just look at how divided and nasty liberals got over health care.
But the deeper problem is that this is what Jon did with it -- make disharmony and fractiousness look like some sort of giant, soul-rending hypocrisy. To have a liberal like Jon Stewart going out and trumpeting the idea that the Occupy movement is both disorganized and deeply hypocritical is the kind of thing only the left does to itself. You don't see anyone on the right going out and doing a hit job like this on the Tea Party, ever.
I'm especially mad that this is essentially all he had to say in response to the huge police action that went down at OWS just the other day -- great shame the movement got cut short by jackbooted thugs, but don't worry, it was meaningless and not going anywhere anyways.
I love you Jon, but for fuck's sake, can't you find some way to dial the self-destructive BS back a bit?


Even worse--just before this bit he declared that the Occupy Movement is over. I've been watching Jon's reporting on Occupy closely because I suspected he didn't support the movement. He's all for change--but this inconvenienced him and some of his rich friends. First the Rally to Restore Complacency--now this.

It's not over Jon. He's on my shit list now. He's been dismissive since day one. Colbert is a supporter--Jon is not.

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Wow, this makes my talk of rallies being moronic seem tame in comparison.

personally i think jon was right. OWS kinda overplayed its hand. Occupy for a Week and then get out with momentum. practicalities and smear campaigns.

35,000 people in the streets of NY tonight.

It's not over, Jon.

Yea what tipped me off to Jon's stance on these matters is that video here on the sift where he had an angry rant at Seth McFarlane for the sketch done on him about not cancelling his show during the writers guild strikes. It helped me understand him a bit better.

He makes an attempt at being 'neutral" but he seems to have some underlying issues with really supporting what OWS is trying to achieve.

Jon rips the RIGHT all the time and you just laugh and have a good time nodding you heads saying yes John yes you are right.

Now on this piece he does the same but to a socialist type movement that you are for and you get all pissed about it . How two-faced.

I turned this off when I was watching it because I just can't stand how people tell me everything about this movement who don't know a fucking thing. They don't ask them...they just tell them or other people what it's about. OWS is something we don't even deserve...just everyone go home...turn the lights off and fuck this country.

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>> ^bobknight33:

Jon rips the RIGHT all the time and you just laugh and have a good time nodding you heads saying yes John yes you are right.
Now on this piece he does the same but to a socialist type movement that you are for and you get all pissed about it . How two-faced.


It's not the right, it's money hungry lunatics backed by corporations attempting to destroy the country (and many others) so a few can profit. Saying you are pro-gun, anti-choice and pro-christian does not make you right-wing when your intent is to siphon tens of millions of dollars in corporate donations and public money so you can afford a jet for your niece to get to preschool. Personally I'm sick of the clips ragging on GOP as well, it's just picking low hanging fruit. With few exceptions, the Dems are just as bad, and in some cases worse (Obama).

As an example, your president just flew to our country (Australia) to tell us we're going to be getting a bunch of troops permanently stationed in Darwin, he said that America is "a Pacific power and we are here to stay"

Our Prime Minister lapped it all up, so we'll apparently be getting two and a half thousand more permanent US troops soon. At a time when your school systems are crumbling, your $14 trillion + in debt and your plan of action is to spend millions on new military bases and personnel in a foreign country?

Really?

Proof that apple causes selfishness and thus, the downfall of a once united society?