Outrageous jumping/flipping skills

Craziness
robbersdog49says...

Watch any halfway decent gymnastics competition and you'll see girls with more precision, and power than this. I know he's doing things which I could never do, that's a given. But I just don't understand why when you take gymnastics - and remove the grace, timing and precision - people become more impressed. Any half decent gymnast could do all of this if they didn't worry about their lines and timing and the planned routine. He's just saying 'look at me, I'm doing these things sloppily, aren't I great!'

No. No you're not.

Sepacoresays...

>> ^robbersdog49:

Watch any halfway decent gymnastics competition and you'll see girls with more precision, and power than this. I know he's doing things which I could never do, that's a given. But I just don't understand why when you take gymnastics - and remove the grace, timing and precision - people become more impressed. Any half decent gymnast could do all of this if they didn't worry about their lines and timing and the planned routine. He's just saying 'look at me, I'm doing these things sloppily, aren't I great!'
No. No you're not.


The point here as i read it is "if you're not the best or if you're a little off center from a high standard, then there's no reason to be impressed".. well i disagree.

The fact that he can do something that i can't grants me reason to be impressed, even if he's not doing it as well as a highly trained professional could.. who, if we're honest, couldn't do it better than a well drawn cartoon could due to limitations of physics and all. Point is rather than just enjoying the highest visual and perfectionist quality being the cartoon, I'd enjoy this guys level of ability, your gymnast's level of ability and the cartoon's level of ability.

robbersdog49says...

>> ^Sepacore:

>> ^robbersdog49:
Watch any halfway decent gymnastics competition and you'll see girls with more precision, and power than this. I know he's doing things which I could never do, that's a given. But I just don't understand why when you take gymnastics - and remove the grace, timing and precision - people become more impressed. Any half decent gymnast could do all of this if they didn't worry about their lines and timing and the planned routine. He's just saying 'look at me, I'm doing these things sloppily, aren't I great!'
No. No you're not.

The point here as i read it is "if you're not the best or if you're a little off center from a high standard, then there's no reason to be impressed".. well i disagree.
The fact that he can do something that i can't grants me reason to be impressed, even if he's not doing it as well as a highly trained professional could.. who, if we're honest, couldn't do it better than a well drawn cartoon could due to limitations of physics and all. Point is rather than just enjoying the highest visual and perfectionist quality being the cartoon, I'd enjoy this guys level of ability, your gymnast's level of ability and the cartoon's level of ability.


Ok, I see where you're coming from, and if someone just showed me this video and said 'what do you think' then I'd say yeah, he's pretty good. It's the build up, the fact that his skills are supposed to be 'outrageous'. This is the bit that really bugs me, as well as the people in the video reacting like he's doing things no-one has ever done before. He has a lot of skill, but it's not outrageous, and it's nothing that hasn't been done before, and done better, with more style and more control.

If the video had been titled 'This guy can do some pretty good tumbling' then I'd have watched it and moved on. My issue isn't with what he's doing, but rather confusion about the reaction of others to what he's doing.

RhesusMonksays...

Bro, you have never seen a floor performer who has done two double backflips in a single series, nor one who can front flip while spinning horizontally as well. I don't ad hom often, but I call a fat steaming pile of bullshit on you.>> ^robbersdog49:

>> ^Sepacore:
>> ^robbersdog49:
Watch any halfway decent gymnastics competition and you'll see girls with more precision, and power than this. I know he's doing things which I could never do, that's a given. But I just don't understand why when you take gymnastics - and remove the grace, timing and precision - people become more impressed. Any half decent gymnast could do all of this if they didn't worry about their lines and timing and the planned routine. He's just saying 'look at me, I'm doing these things sloppily, aren't I great!'
No. No you're not.

The point here as i read it is "if you're not the best or if you're a little off center from a high standard, then there's no reason to be impressed".. well i disagree.
The fact that he can do something that i can't grants me reason to be impressed, even if he's not doing it as well as a highly trained professional could.. who, if we're honest, couldn't do it better than a well drawn cartoon could due to limitations of physics and all. Point is rather than just enjoying the highest visual and perfectionist quality being the cartoon, I'd enjoy this guys level of ability, your gymnast's level of ability and the cartoon's level of ability.

Ok, I see where you're coming from, and if someone just showed me this video and said 'what do you think' then I'd say yeah, he's pretty good. It's the build up, the fact that his skills are supposed to be 'outrageous'. This is the bit that really bugs me, as well as the people in the video reacting like he's doing things no-one has ever done before. He has a lot of skill, but it's not outrageous, and it's nothing that hasn't been done before, and done better, with more style and more control.
If the video had been titled 'This guy can do some pretty good tumbling' then I'd have watched it and moved on. My issue isn't with what he's doing, but rather confusion about the reaction of others to what he's doing.

jubuttibsays...

They don't do that because that wouldn't really give them that much points in the competitions, though I've seen some do them in exhibitions. Gymnastics is a very old fashioned and rigid art form, there's not a whole lot of creativity involved. Just like ice skating exhibitions are often more impressive than actual championship competitions, because they're not prohibited from doing flips etc.

Personally that's the main thing that I dislike about watching gymnastics, the overemphasized rigidity. Of course it's better for judging, but I like it more when they kinda just jam around and loosen up a bit, it's more aesthetically pleasing somehow.

EDIT: This guy is a good example of what they can do in practice etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6uLi4r5G0 Handspring, backflip, handspring, double backflip (with a straight body, much harder), backflip, backflip, handspring and finally a double backflip with a 360 in the first one. So yeah, nothing new here, but not bad either.

Engelssays...

If you're comparing the above gymnastics practice video with the original video, I don't think you know what you're seeing. Firstly, the gymnast has a HUGE running start, unlike . Secondly, its pretty unidirectional compared to the above dude.

Not saying that the gymnast does nothing, but your lack of being impressed sounds to me of internet toughguy bs.

Thumpersays...

I agree with jubuttib. The video he links shows a pretty impressive series of flips. Additionally the guy was doing flips that are straight up and down vs pulling his knees up to his chest to promote spin. As for the free form jumping, it's pretty awesome but I would like to see someone post a video of a professional doing free form stuff. Also layer in some dub setp. >> ^Engels:

If you're comparing the above gymnastics practice video with the original video, I don't think you know what you're seeing. Firstly, the gymnast has a HUGE running start, unlike . Secondly, its pretty unidirectional compared to the above dude.
Not saying that the gymnast does nothing, but your lack of being impressed sounds to me of internet toughguy bs.

Confuciussays...

booooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrring

>> ^robbersdog49:

Watch any halfway decent gymnastics competition and you'll see girls with more precision, and power than this. I know he's doing things which I could never do, that's a given. But I just don't understand why when you take gymnastics - and remove the grace, timing and precision - people become more impressed. Any half decent gymnast could do all of this if they didn't worry about their lines and timing and the planned routine. He's just saying 'look at me, I'm doing these things sloppily, aren't I great!'
No. No you're not.

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