Obama about Guns & Commonsense, 5 days after Sandy Hook

At least the conversations are coming from leadership and not Facebook.
chingalerasays...

Sounds harmless enough and he used some language that reflects my sentiments regarding society and how broken it is and efforts to adjust cultural mores.

That said I am confident that some comments on this subject here will continue to wax manically and emotionally bereft of critical common sense, and the most eloquent verbiage used to argue will still sound like automotomacious lackeys groomed for predictable, subservient responses to government mandates which subjugate responsible and humanitarian free-will.

These dysfunctional responses to society's cultural and spiritual demise from a broken governmental machine which neither represents my own sensibilities or is capable of making laws which do nothing more than to systematically turn us all into obedient husks??!.... I don't care what becomes of the laws concerning guns anymore in the U.S. As a citizen I will continue to own whatever firearm I chose to regardless of what list it's on and if I ever need the tools they will be there.

Laws providing ways for responsible people to have guns, not prohibitions. SANE
Prohibit imbeciles and the un-hinged from being a threat by limiting their access,.
SANE
More laws designed to make ME a fucking criminal. Fucking insane.

Prison State Evolution, read some fucking history for christfucking sakes!

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

Don't worry Choggie. No one is going to take your guns. We've already decided as a nation that we'd prefer to water the tree of gun rights with the blood of first graders than to even consider the possibility that we might have a problem. Celebrate your triumph.

ZappaDanMansays...

Sounds like they're headed in the direction Australia did in 1996, with a ban on semi-automatic rifles and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns. Though without a gun-buy back and destruction scheme, it would be pretty useless.

The Australian government raised $500m (through a one-off increase in the Medicare levy) for the scheme, which led to the destruction of 631,000 firearms (mostly semi-auto .22 rimfires, semi-automatic shotguns and pump-action shotguns).

Roughly 80% of Australians supported the action by the government; main opposers being sporting shooters and farmers.

Thumpersays...

"I’ll give up my gun when they pry my cold dead hands off of it".

Men in Black said it best..."Your proposal is acceptable".

I think it's win win. We get the guns and some sorry ass red necks go down with it.

EvilDeathBeesays...

If they want to have any impact to the ludicrous amount of guns in America, they need serious and strict regulations, not just faff about with a few weaksauce laws. I just hope Biden realises this and that the Democrats don't wimp out at Republican glares and stand up to lunatics obsessed with their guns

chingalerasays...

An issue then may arise as to how "they" take guns that can't be seen or you don't voluntarily hand them-

To accomplish the disarming of a nation whose history can't be told without firearms, further restrictive legislation could simply make ammunition cost-prohibitive or unavailable. That's just what we need to fix a problem otherwise corrected through SANE preventative means -A new criminal class

This would be just what cunts need to energize the good-ole-boy arrangement between the private prison industry and a defective government increasingly motivated to subjugate constitutional rights while pillaging the fruits of our labor. New criminals mean more inmates.

DrewNumberTwosaid:

The problem with taking guns from people who want to keep their guns is that they have guns.

Kofisays...

I still have heard of any "SANE preventative means" that don't involve restricting gun ownership.

This is much like the war on terror insofar as victory is just minimisation not eradication. Massacres like this are going to continue so long as access to easily usable weaponry is maintained. The best you can realistically hope for in the USA is to have fewer of them. As such it is going to be near impossible to provide compelling evidence that a decrease in access to weapons amounts to a decrease in shootings as there are always going to be sporadic shootings in a country with so widely spread gun ownership. One massacre equals grist for the mill to those who say gun laws didnt stop anything just as all the counter-terrorist efforts haven't stopped terrorism. It is going to take a degree of calmness and maturity that the USA, given its heritage, simply doesn't possess. The rest of the developed world has only come to these findings after the fact and is screaming at the USA to heed their experienced advice. Likewise, the rest of the developed world can't get it through their heads that the USA has 'jumped the shark' in relation to gun ownership and proliferation and nothing short of a revolutionary change in the cultural psychology, such that near universal voluntary relinquishment of gun ownership is required, will address the problem.

In short, gun ownership in the USA is The Prisoners Dilemma writ large.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma

bareboards2says...

Top banner scroll on Yahoo Home Page this morning --- NRA calls for armed police officers in every school.

So to protect the ownership of large magazine clips, they want the entire country to hire a police officer to stand around doing nothing in every single school in the country.

Now there is a workable compromise.

Kofisays...

and cinema, and college, and congresswoman, and immigration centre, and ex-workplaces, and mosque, and abortion clinic, and Luby's cafeteria, and military base, and....

bareboards2said:

So to protect the ownership of large magazine clips, they want the entire country to hire a police officer to stand around doing nothing in every single school in the country.

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