Yes but England is not a secular democracy with separation of church and state. They never were. In fact, they seem quite eager to adopt as much Sharia and Muslim influence as possible. As far as I know, America was the first real secular, democratic nation. But that's going away too. Nothing good lasts.

Hmmm, I'm annoyed or otherwise perturbed that Mohammad is the most popular name as well and that for the religious aspects-It's a gauge on the backward-thinking majority being kept slaves by a system of disinformation, economic servitude, etc. What's the most popular aristocratic European name? Hindi? Dutch? Who gives a damn but to know that the fact that Mohammad is popular is due to lack of knowledge regarding the origins of world religions and the grip those that know the truth have over masses of people.

People have used the race card with me as well when cogent, reasonable discourse eluded them-I usually end up telling them to go fuck themselves and shove their pompous, self-righteous bullshit, firmly in their assholes.

They seem eager to adopt Sharia law? I thought they only allowed it certain minor cases. Still, they dont have a bill of rights or a constitution. But, Sharia Law to take over? I wonder what their official religion, The Church of England thinks of that.

OMG TEH MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER!!!1!!1!ELEVEN!11!

Why doesn't he talk about ISRAEL the SAME WAY ? Racist Pig

>> ^kymbos:

OMG TEH MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER!!!1!!1!ELEVEN!11!


ELEVEN!

!!!1!!!111!11!!!11111!!!1

Does not compute.

Islam is not a race. How many times does that have to be repeated before it sinks in?

>> ^Kofi:

They seem eager to adopt Sharia law? I thought they only allowed it certain minor cases. Still, they dont have a bill of rights or a constitution. But, Sharia Law to take over? I wonder what their official religion, The Church of England thinks of that.


That is my understanding as well. Additionally, any judgements passed by a sharia court in Britain is not officially recognized by the state. Verdicts only stand as an unofficial agreement between the parties involved. Also, any case tried in a sharia court can also be tried in an official court at any time, if any of the parties desire so.

Sharia courts in Britain are a gesture of good faith toward islamic communities, giving them the opportunity to resolve matters within a judicial system they feel more comforable with. But they carry no weight.

No Bill, you are not racist, as Islam is not a race, but you ARE prejudiced. While there is every reason to defend and uphold the democratic principles you list against the reactionary and patriarchal elements of all religions including islam, there is no reason to believe that small arbitration courts in parts of London is a threat to the well established and well founded liberal legal systems of the Western world.

And to say that Mohammed is the most popular name for babies is at best bending the truth. In that count is also included Mohamad, Muhammed, Mohammad, Muhammad and similar variations of the name. To be fair you would also have to count names like Jake, Jack and Jacob in the same bin. Five minutes of googling would also have told you that there is a tradition for muslim parents of all denominations to name one of their children after the prophet, while no such tradition exists among other brits. This fact alone can explain the name statistics, without saying diddly-squat about the rise of radical islam in Great Britain.

Man, that Sharia Law bullshit keeps getting referenced without people really knowing the facts. Research it please, and that means going further than the Daily Mail I'm afraid.

Ok, lets get some actual stats up in this.
Christian - 41,000,000 - 71%
Muslim - 1,600,000 - 3%
No Religion - 8,500,000 - 15%

Why is Mohammed the most popular name? Probably because it accounts for a very large percentage of those 1.6 million. The rest of us Brits make names up, steal names from other cultures and generally aren't naming our kids as traditionally. Consequently no one name trumps Mohammed. So is Maher racist for his remarks? No, just horrible misinformed. I expected better.

Oh, and of those 71% Christians I expect the vast majority are basically agnostic or deist. As for seperation of Church and State...well it might be in your constitution but I think we do it more justice. Some irony huh.

Oh come on people.

Maher spends at least as much time on air attacking Christianity, and you can hear crickets chirping for the lack of outrage. Say one thing against Islam though and suddenly he's crossed the line.

At least have the consistency to be just as outraged when he lashes out at any other religion except Islam.

Seriously. Can I move over there please? Our midterms have squashed any glimmer of hope I had left.

>> ^Jinx:

Oh, and of those 71% Christians I expect the vast majority are basically agnostic or deist. As for seperation of Church and State...well it might be in your constitution but I think we do it more justice. Some irony huh.

>> ^hpqp:

Islam is not a race. How many times does that have to be repeated before it sinks in?


Obviously several hundred times for those who are quick to label, judge, and otherwise turn their brains off when faced with any form of confrontation. Call me a racist and be prepared for some confrontation in the form of discourse. Sadly, most who use play the accusatory race card are usually pretentious, confused psuedo-intellects who fancy themselves superior or otherwise more socially evolved than the herd when in fact, they are simply more jaded and full of themselves.

Hopefully with these recent comments however, we will see less of Maher in the future, as his shtick has become increasingly more mundane with his abuse of more and more cocaine and his ratings plunge like a passenger jet in a barrel-roll.

>> ^Jinx:

Man, that Sharia Law bullshit keeps getting referenced without people really knowing the facts. Research it please, and that means going further than the Daily Mail I'm afraid.
Ok, lets get some actual stats up in this.
Christian - 41,000,000 - 71%
Muslim - 1,600,000 - 3%
No Religion - 8,500,000 - 15%
Why is Mohammed the most popular name? Probably because it accounts for a very large percentage of those 1.6 million. The rest of us Brits make names up, steal names from other cultures and generally aren't naming our kids as traditionally. Consequently no one name trumps Mohammed. So is Maher racist for his remarks? No, just horrible misinformed. I expected better.
Oh, and of those 71% Christians I expect the vast majority are basically agnostic or deist. As for seperation of Church and State...well it might be in your constitution but I think we do it more justice. Some irony huh.


I'm amazed that someone as informed as Maher would make such a stupid mistake in logic and such ridiculous remarks. There is no threat of a Muslim majority rising up in any EU nation. Yes their birthrates are higher than the national average but it has been decreasing as more Muslims get assimilated into society.

Sadly a lot of Europeans share the same ridiculous ideas as Maher and this has led to an alarming rise in fear and bad sentiment towards Muslims.

Newsweek: Why Fears Of A Muslim Takeover Are All Wrong
"There is no Europewide data available, but one study says fertility rates among Turkish-born women in the Netherlands fell from 3.2 in 1990 to 1.9 in 2005, barely above the figure for native-born Dutch."

Considering how many Muslims lost their shit when a bunch of kids named a teddy bear "Mohammed", I wonder if this isn't just lots of Brits doing their own part to piss off more Muslims.

Every now and then Maher says something really uninformed. Remember when he went on about immunisation causing disease, or something like that? I was gobsmacked at the time. If I remember correctly, he was genuinely telling people not to immunise their children. Madness.

This one is right up there. Lots of kids are named Mohommad, therefore England will be a Muslim state soon enough? Wow.

@kymbos

>> ^kymbos:

Every now and then Maher says something really uninformed. Remember when he went on about immunisation causing disease, or something like that? I was gobsmacked at the time. If I remember correctly, he was genuinely telling people not to immunise their children. Madness.
This one is right up there. Lots of kids are named Mohommad, therefore England will be a Muslim state soon enough? Wow.


I was amazed by that too. For someone who says he is rational, he sure adheres to some very retarded and unscientific views. His clips on vaccines:






An Open Letter by Michael Shermer to Bill Maher on Vaccinations

Bill Maher's response, which is much more nuanced than how his views looked on the show.

This kind of thing annoys me as well. For some reason a lot of people seem to believe that most Muslims are extremists. Most are not. They are good people who want nothing more than love, safety, freedom and peace, like almost everybody else on this planet.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

Considering how many Muslims lost their shit when a bunch of kids named a teddy bear "Mohammed", I wonder if this isn't just lots of Brits doing their own part to piss off more Muslims.


That would be simultaneously hilarious and cruel (to the kids).

I'd be just as concerned if a ton of people named their kid Jesus.

Hell. Katie (and the infinite spelling variations therof) is a ridiculously overused name here in the US and I have to force myself to not roll my eyes every time I meet someone who ALSO has that name.

Am I prejudiced too because I think it's stupid when any name gets overused?

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