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WOW! It's like 24!!!!!

torture in the name of JEEEEEEEEEESUS!

Well of course they intended for it to happen and were personally involved.

Instead of ordering it explicitly though to allow for possible future vindication of involvement, they used a combination of vague human rights standards for interrogation and an overt demands for results from lower level soldiers and interrogators.

New recruits don't suddenly become amoral unless they're brainwashed or subjected to intense pressure.

I'm sorry but what does it matter now? We torture the shit out of people and we'll keep doing it, its not like this country is going to do anything about it. What are the people going to put a stop to it? I mean Christ we are in a democracy and the Tibetans seem to exercise their civil liberties more than our lazy asses ever will. So we keep bitching about what we do but its not like we will punish the people who do it. Hell that democratic nominee Kucinich brought up impeachment and was laughed right out of the primaries for it so maybe its my jaded side talking but unless we are actually going to do something about it im getting tired of all the complaining, Bush and his cronies will leave the White House and nothing will ever be done to them, fact.

Bad apples conspire to put cherry bombs in a school toilet; those who conspire to engage in this Consitution-rending semantic game need a new definition to cover the scope of their misdeeds. And I hold our media just as accountable; while they deign to call torture Enhanced Interrogation, the investigative team that reports on waterboarding and re-enacts it can't even show it without a goddamn vaseline filter over the lens.

TDS reported on this


from Think Progress
"ABC News reported tonight that President Bush’s most senior and trusted advisers met in “dozens of top-secret talks and meetings in the White House” beginning in 2002 to approve the use of “combined” interrogation techniques (the joint use of harsh interrogation techniques). Those tactics included whether detainees “would be slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding.”"

Boy did this story die quick...question should be...were they wearing lapel pins?

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You can't shake the boat too much Fedquip.

torture is watching monkeys in the U.S. and elsewhere, chatter on about the symptomology of a much larger problem, while continuing to believe in such fantasies as free elections, human rights, or justice for any formidable criminals...all involved in this are team players in an international charade, and the issue of torture referenced here.....more diversion. Slapping, pushing, water-boarding??? Those detainees have a light-weight mind-fuck compared to the one perpetrated upon others, who with bleeding heart, post vids like this-Haven't you figured it out yet, meatbots????

^ So what do you recommend we do?

>> ^NetRunner:
^ So what do you recommend we do?

Exactly. Do YOU have it figured out? If so, enlighten us. Even Ashcroft, one of the six 'Principals', knew that history would not judge them kindly for having these discussion in the White House.

Your downvote signifies what? That torture is okay, or that the story is biased, or what? You speak in algorithms many a time, and I'm not going to prosecute you for doing so. But you must explain yourself now. If for no one else, then to me. What forced you to downvote this story?

You have zero obligation to reply, of course. However as a Sift stalwart, I'm hoping you have a somewhat decent explanation for your downvote. I'm not calling you a QM (and I realize all the baggage it entails even to mention that name). But we deserve better than an elusive choggish response. "Detainees have a light-weight mind-fuck"? Of course they do, after they've been tortured. So would you. You're assuming all detainees are guilty of something, I assume?

You're on vacation, but if you post a lengthy comment then expect a lengthy reply, regardless of your current geographical coordinates.

Choggie thinks that we need a radical shift in paradigm to anarchistic society. That's his solution. That of course will never happen.

You work with the mess you got, we can't just scrape it and start from 0 again.

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Dear Mr. Obama,

Please prosecute every one of these motherfuckers.

Sincerely,

John

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