Tolkein should have been more like Hitchens, then LOTR would have been money.

Appeal to authority, ad hominem.

Just Because I disagree with you does not mean that I need to read up on Christopher Hitchens. I thought he was remarkably wrong very often. But at least he did have the decency to admit when he hadn't thought a position through well enough.

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I think you slightly diminish Hitch's name including Carlin, Hicks and Suzuki. Even Chomsky only bares inclusion for his great heights in the past.
I get your point, but you may want to read up on Hitchen's some more. He stood apart from almost everyone on your list by willingly putting himself in harms way to put his beliefs and understanding to the test, and in many cases surviving the ordeal to come back and declare that what he learned had changed his mind.

Goth!?? I thought they were all trying to dress like tank girl, or some other Manga.

Brutal!

ooh ooh ooh hobbitses!!!!

Next December.......

*sad

Yes yes. Kurds, hmmmmmm let me think

oh yes they were abused by turks throughout history but most notably during the the 1890's 1920's 1930's and on up to the 70's and 80's. Ironically, Kurds also were one of the primary agents used by the Turks in the deportations and massacre Armenians before and during world war 1.

Those Kurds.

Who were also abused by Saddam. All part of a long chain of ethnic cleansing, genocide and nationalist violence caused in a large part by religion and creed as well as tribal identity throughout the balkans and the ottoman empire and what became the palestinian mandate.

Which Hitchens thought we should wade into because science and atheism will put right through warfare that which religion and warfare could not put right.

Hitchens got so much so wrong so many times, but he sounded soooo good doing it.

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Goodbye Chris. Some of his most profound moments for me came when he actually screwed up and was wrong! It would often lead to other talks and dialogs between the people he had erred against and himself and in some occasions Christopher would merely present them and allow the other person to put the matter straight. He could be friends with these people and often was.
It showed me that he had within himself the ability to be very humble and that to him the truth WAS paramount! For that and much more I will remember him always.
He had it within himself to be the best of us all.

His about face on waterboarding after being waterboarded was the point that I started paying attention to him.

His about face on Saddam era Iraq stood out more in my mind. After being a champion of the anti-war movement in the first Gulf war he went and spent time with the Iraqi Kurds. He came back vehement in his conviction that America's worst crime in Iraq was in essence listening to him in the first place and not pushing into Baghdad and removing Saddam the first time.

Certainly electronic music can be good. Henry hates it. I think it can be good but is in general inferior, especially if it has no live component. The enjoyment of music is heightened when played live and shared in a venue that is conducive to live performance. To put it in vulgar terms, masturbation is great, but it is just not as good as fucking. All of which are opinions that you can do with as you will.

I for one am appalled at the appearance of the blond "woman" in the fuchsia dress. That hairdo alone is responsible for 20 cancer deaths in Australia.

This deserves a *downunder

*beg

Whoops! Yes he is dissing electronic music.

http://videosift.com/video/Henry-Rollins-on-rave-and-modern-rock-music

>> ^mxxcon:

while i agree with a lot of what he said, it seem like he's dissing electronic music..?




If the electronic music can't be performed live, he's most certainly dissing it.

and,.... they kick ass live. There is nothing worse than a band that can't put on a good live show.

All of that dancing and singing and clapping.........and absolutely no joy.