Let me get this straight. MoveOn.org, a lobby group for the Wall Street financed Obama administration that is funded by Wall Street billionaire and financial criminal George Soros, has a problem with political spending? That's rich, Ha.

Oh and the "tax the rich" plan MoveOn and other groups are trying to push are widely supported by Wall Street oligarchs. Why is that? Hmmm....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504650932556900.html
"Roughly 90% of the tax filers who would pay more under Mr. Obama’s plan aren’t millionaires, and 99.99% aren’t billionaires."
It is the middle class – not Warren Buffett or Wall Street corporations – who will be most hurt by the very policies the "tax the rich" crowd are calling for.

"Who is saying that congresswoman?"

"Well, you know, I'm not ah, det, tha, these are actual friends on the other side"

Beautifully put.


The only way to get rid of Obama's Health Care Fascism Bill is to get rid of Obama? NO, THAT'S CRAZY TALK!

What is her point? That the contrived political structure is based on 2 sides sabotaging each other and pointing their fingers at the other side come election time?

Cop's fault.

No audible signal until right before the collision? If a cop is not going to run his sirens, then it's his responsibility to show extra caution that other cars see him and yield. Obviously the old man didn't see him coming.

Furthermore, "police released few details about the circumstances leading up to the crash" seems a bit suspicious on it's own.

>> ^iaui:

Wow, marbles, you sure came out of that argument looking like a fool, didn't you?

Yeah, I'm the one looking like a fool. I was crying about being clueless and when someone tried to give me the facts, I told the fucking moron to fuck off with their fucking useless facts. I WIN, right?

As for the rest of your post, incoherent much?

>> ^Yogi:

Ok here's my opinion. Fuck off with your fucking useless report you fucking moron.


Words of a fool. Thanks for removing all doubt.

Now, don't you have a riot to be attending? Don't forget your "We heart JoePa" shirt.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^marbles:
>> ^Yogi:
I think the students are upset because they believe Joe was made out to be a scapegoat. When there are other people in charge who knew about this and were reported to. Again I don't know that much about it, and actually there's not even that many facts out at the moment that can be verified so I don't understand why everyone is being all self righteous and saying who fucked up.

The Penn State Board of Trustees fired Joe and the school President Spanier. I'd say this is a pretty good start. The kids are mindless youths and don't have a clue what they're talking about.
Instead of playing devil's advocate and repeatedly saying you don't actually know the facts, it would probably serve you better to get informed. Here is a copy of the grand jury report released that prompted the actions of the Board of Trustees.

I can't find Joe Paterno's name anywhere in that grand jury report. I see how he could've acted, I don't see how everyone can sit there and with 20/20 hindsight they'd know exactly what to do.


You can't find Paterno's name? So maybe illiteracy is your bigger problem then.

Like I said before, read the report then form your opinion.

>> ^Yogi:

I think the students are upset because they believe Joe was made out to be a scapegoat. When there are other people in charge who knew about this and were reported to. Again I don't know that much about it, and actually there's not even that many facts out at the moment that can be verified so I don't understand why everyone is being all self righteous and saying who fucked up.


The Penn State Board of Trustees fired Joe and the school President Spanier. I'd say this is a pretty good start. The kids are mindless youths and don't have a clue what they're talking about.

Instead of playing devil's advocate and repeatedly saying you don't actually know the facts, it would probably serve you better to get informed. Here is a copy of the grand jury report released that prompted the actions of the Board of Trustees.

IS THERE NO SHAME?

Joe Paterno was fired by the Penn State Board of Trustees on Wednesday night as head football coach of Penn State. It was the first good decision that has been made in the last two decades by the leaders of Penn State. The man was told that his Defensive coordinator was seen in the locker room shower raping a 10 year old boy in 2002. He did not call the police and report this crime. He and the other top officials at Penn State brushed this crime under the rug, allowing at least seven more young boys to be raped by this monster. The 28 year old graduate assistant not only did nothing to stop the crime he witnessed, but he accepted a position as an assistant coach, knowing that Paterno and the Athletic Director never did anything to hold Sandusky accountable for his crime. Sandusky was still on campus working out as of last week. The actions of all the players in this disgusting example of how far our society has degenerated are enough to make someone lose all hope for humanity:

• Jerry Sandusky creates a charitable organization so he can gain access to little boys. Multiple incidents are witnessed on campus from 1994 through 2002. A mother reports Sandusky to the Penn State police in 1998 and nothing is done by the men in the Administration. The investigation is dropped, but Tim Curley forces Sandusky to retire in 1999. It is clear that everyone in the top echelon of Penn State knew Sandusky was a deviant pedophile. But letting it become public would have been a black mark on the football program and could have reduced the huge profits generated by Paterno’s kingdom.
• After his forced retirement he is still given access to the campus and locker room facilities. He is caught having anal sex with a 10 year old boy in the locker room shower by a 28 year old man, who chooses not to intervene and save the boy. Joe Paterno does the absolute minimum when informed of this horrific crime. After this crime is covered up by all the key men running the show at Penn State, it just becomes business as usual for Joe and his cronies.
• Sandusky continues to rape little boys for the next eight years because of the cowardice and complete lack of morality exhibited by the men in high places at Penn State.
• With the issuance of the grand jury report last week, the psychotic nature of these men was on display for the world to witness. In a stunning display of arrogance and hubris, Paterno and the President of Penn State announced their full support for the Athletic Director and VP of Finance who were arrested. These men did not think they did anything wrong. They clung to the fact that they adhered to the laws created by other men. In a despicable display, Joe Paterno led a cheer at a pep rally in front of his house with his arms raised in victory. At least eight boys had their lives ruined and Joe Paterno leads a cheer.
• The Board of Trustees summoned the courage to fire Paterno and the President last night. In another display that makes me wonder about the future of our country, thousands of students rioted in support of Joe Paterno, breaking windows, turning over news vans, and starting fires. Are these young people incapable of critical thinking and are just driven by emotion and mindless rage? Can’t they distinguish between facts and lies? Do they care more about football than innocent children being raped?

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>> ^LooiXIV:

The funny thing is that the original point of the electoral college was so separate actual citizen voters from the actual decision process as much as possible. When the electoral college was first conceived and implemented voters actually voted for people who they thought would pick a good president, not the actual president. Eventually, voters were just voting for the representative that would choose the president that they wanted so the "middle man" was removed, and with a lil' hoocus povcus we have the electoral college we have today. The truth of the matter is that the "Founding Fathers" did not really trust commoners/the voters to make the best decisions; so they made things like the electoral college to try and remove voters away from the decision process. Whether or not this is actually a good idea, a moral idea, or even an effective to achieving their goals is an entirely different matter. I'm just saying the system that the United States has is miss-representative, and kind of shitty by design...


Well you got it mostly right, the fact is we're not suppose to be a democracy. We are suppose to be constitutional republic of individual sovereign states with democratic checks and balances. Democracy ≠ freedom.

>> ^AeroMechanical:

Yes, but that's exactly what friendly fire is.

No, it's not.


Friendly fire is inadvertent firing towards one's own or otherwise friendly forces while attempting to engage enemy forces, particularly where this results in injury or death. A death resulting from a negligent discharge is not considered friendly fire. Neither is murder, whether premeditated or in the heat of the moment,...

>> ^AeroMechanical:

I believe their rifles fire three shots with each pull of the trigger, so being shot three times doesn't necessarily mean anything.
>> ^marbles:
Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away. Friendly fire? Yeah, right.



It doesn't? It makes it hard to sell the lie that it was an Al-Qaeda ambush.

New documents shed light on Tillman’s death:
“The medical evidence did not match up with the scenario as described,” a doctor who examined Tillman’s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.
...
Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.

The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman’s death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn’t recall details of his actions.

No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene — no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.
...
It has been widely reported by the AP and others that Spc. Bryan O’Neal, who was at Tillman’s side as he was killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his arms shouting “Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!” again and again.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Luckily, this law allows me to state that I have a moral conviction that you're a moron. And I religiously believe morons should be punched at every available opportunity. The FSM told me to.

Luckily, we're working on a bill to crack down on internet bullies. (link
)
Enjoy your time on the internet while it lasts, calling someone a moron will not be tolerated. This is your final warning.

Hurry up and pass this bill! This will end bullying tomorrow...


No, actually all that it leads to is this:

3-Year-Olds Branded “Racist,” “Homophobic” Put In Government Database

>> ^Payback:

Absence of proof is not proof of absence.

O RLY?

What you and @Skeeve don't seem to realize is it doesn't matter if it's taken "off the top" or from the winnings, you're still paying the tax. Just like it doesn't matter if the house adds the vig up front or takes it in a form of a rake, you're still paying the juice.