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joedirt and westy - I wasn't representing the literal interpretation of the claim as being sound. Interesting reaction though.

Wouldn't the problem of induction, in the way they are misusing it, work against the video's case just as equally? For example - just because god (presuming to exist here for a moment) existed yesterday, is holding the universe up yesterday, was almighty yesterday, etc, etc...doesn't mean he will tomorrow.

That list of scientists is not "lots", as the number of people on that list is less than 50 compared to the 1000's on the other side. Also, many of people on this already tiny list are not scientists in the correct field. Finally, if you read the actual article it clearly cites that this list of people do not necessarily reflect skepticism toward climate change caused by human activity.

I don't support Bush, but this video is taken out of context. It has a different meaning when you hear the words that came before and after.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html

Search for the term 'Explosives' to skip to the part in question.

That's a strawman because you're defeating a point that was only an anecdotal example. I feel like you did a good job with it, but my actual position has been that the police force, who is employed by the city, has acted in a way that is not representive of the city's values...ie...in the wrong. That position continues to be true. Outside of that...I suspect I'll agree with you.

It's pretty simple really. When someone grabs little girls by the neck...or when someone threaten to spray mace into the face of someone who can't get up...people tend to dislike that person even if they were within the 'rules'. I don't feel like it's rocket science. It made their local news for a reason.

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens to the guy. We probably won't ever get to know. Personally I doubt he'll be fired...but I wonder if local people will look at him differently. Perhaps people will inflate the events over time and eventually it becomes problematic for him..."hey you're that guy who hates children" or something. I know that's stretching, but at this point I'm just pondering out loud.

In retrospect...perhaps we've got him all wrong...maybe something happened to him that morning. Maybe his wife died, mother died, etc. Or it could be far simpler...maybe a bird crapped on him a few moments before the skaters came about. There's just so many possible reasons...we can never know.

Rembar hits the nail on the head..."I've come to the conclusion that the cop's failing was not as a police officer specifically, but more as an adult and member of society" - I agree completely.

I haven't bent an article. I didn't claim the officer was fired. I claimed that it was shown that he was in the wrong. The article claims that the mayor has indicated that he does not condone the officer's actions. The major...ie the major of the city...the city is what employes the police force...the city's mayor is above the opinion of the police officer in the food chain.

For example at a private company if I do something and my middle manager boss doesn't think it's bad, but the CEO does, then it is bad.

The police chief will probably do what he can do to dodge...what else can he do. He's gotta take care of his flock. The mayor though, has already indicated that the action doesn't represent the values of the city. And values, not the technicalities of legalease (like the way he's trying to claim battery), are what we're talking about in this thread.

Perhaps the kids might have been jerks to the officer, but it doesn't matter. The kids are not accountable to not be jerks...a police officer is. He is accountable to be above this kind of emotionally driven response. Is that hard to do or even unfair? Yea, but that is what you sign up for when you become a police officer.

It goes further than this simple truth though...

Why would he threaten to use mace? Mace is to be used as a means to control an otherwise out of control situation...for example to take someone down who is being confrontational. The kid is already down, under control and even restrained. He is being warned that if he moves, in this restrained state, that he'll get 'sprayed' with mace. Why? It is a demonstration of power.

There are many more points one could use against him, but it is moot. His employer agrees that he is in the wrong: http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=6712585

double you tea eff?

I would get a paid accout if it meant my downvote had more strength (votes)...just for videos like this. Why? Because so far...videosift has not degraded whereas some aggregate sites have.

We can of course argue either side of the fence in regards to this being porn or not, but can anyone argue for it having value here? If there is no value then it is diluting the site...at best.

http://www.van-halen.com/ - They announced earlier this month that they are touring again. Note: Other websites claim that Michael Anthony is out and Ed's son is in.

Brilliant...

Contrary to what the person getting the degree said...the all time landmark (and record holding) titles in terms of sales (and cultural impact) do not have violence or sex. The ones with violence and sex just make the most noise when they become successful by short term and local (to their genre) measure. And even then, they are often not successful because they had violence and sex...it just appears that way from a layman perspective.

As for the video...it is of course full of inaccuracy and misleading issues. For example it displays a sentence that says "half of america plays video games" yet no one speaks it outloud. No one wants to get called on it because it is just a statistical trick. It's a trick because the "half of america" thing is only true when you count things like casual web games, cell phone games, harmless stuff like tetris and the games that come with windows like minesweeper and solitaire.

I agree the whole thing is still scary though because it does not matter if it is true or not. It matters only who argues louder.

game designer, 10+ years