I want to be cloned

I've been saying for a long time that I want to be cloned. I want a Marianne to be the wife. I need one to be Mommy. And of course there's Marianne the Career Professional...then I want one who's just me. 

But the thought just came to me...I need a clone to be MLx, too. I just got home from a very long day: 9 hour work day hunched over my computer trying to write the materials for a class I'm teaching next week and ended up at a board meeting. Then I had to take my daughter to horn lessons, finally came home to a messy kitchen and laundry to be done. And I see all these videos I want to watch! And blog posts to respond to! I want to finish up some CSS code!  And I need to find a submission!

But I'm pooped.  Ya know?

MarineGunrock says...

Well, just make sure you get your priorities in order. Officially they are:
1)All things VideoSift. Do not anger Siftbot.
2)Work (without it, you've no job to pay for the internet bill)
3)Dinner (A woman's gotta eat!)
4)Family. After all, they can clean and or walk to their appointments.

Glad I could help!

Fedquip says...

If I had two clones I would call them Jeff2 and Jeff3. I would make Jeff2 kneel behind Jeff3 then push Jeff3 backwards. The end result would be many chuckles for all. But it would only be funny once, so afterwards I don't know what I'd do with my clones, probably make them run errands.

Thylan says...

Being pooped I know about. But not sure what I'd use my clones for. Might send one out to find useful employment as "Husband" as I don't seem to have time to fit that in atm. Wonder what else. Maybe travel.

youdiejoe says...

New sub topic: I would use my clone for self pleasure....would that be werid? non-hetro? If you can't love yourself.... Also my wife wants to know if it would be cheating if she jumped in with us.... the mind reels

gorgonheap says...

How come ethics seem to slip by everyone when to comes to cloning? My clone would probably end up more successful then I and then I would have to kill him. I could then inherit everything he owns because he's me and no one would know the difference. BWHAHAHA!

Thylan says...

(comment NSFW) ^ do you mean a variation of this?

Re your wife joining, I'd say that was non cheating for both of you. In fact, if you both had clones, and spent time with each other irrespective of each others cloneness, I'd say none of that was infidelity.

On a side note, might the possibility of a clone providing slef pleasure ever be a female fantasy? (youdiejoe has shown that it could for a guy, and that two female clones could be a fantasy for a guy goes without saying, and isn't what I mean).

Moving back off the sub topic, I was wondering if a good use of cloneing would be to experience things of possible high reward but also greater risk. (World travel partly falls into this, the risk also being reduced by simultaneously being able to stay at home and work, funding said trip. which sucks for that clone).

Or, would the survival instinct/self preservation be no more diluted than the situation of identical twins.

Infact, does the concept of identical twin completely break the clone concept, because we never just mean genetic parity, but also mental and "self" parity...

E.g. a clone does not take normal time for their body to grow to a level of development matching that of the cloned person, and that a mental imprint is taken too, such that the clone IS the same person from that point.

However, Id think that this would still allow divergence of person hood, from this point of cloning.

Thinking about this, and considering possibility's of telepathy/mental communication and communion, I'd think the next stage up from the above cloning (immediate, and self clone as well as genetic) would be for the two individuals to be in continual contact mental, sharing ideas/thoughts and relating their divergent experiences (one at work/one traveling, or one at work/one with the wifes clone).

Next level up form this, and what I'd perceive to be the ideal, is the concept of OverMind with clone body's being subprocess units.

Let me use computer analogies to explain what I mean.

1.Genetic Cloning (Identical twin paralel)
Two PCs, built with the same hardware. They initially run the same program, but each program is fed distinct data. Due to the divergence in data, the program states diverge form each other with time, this divergence becoming increasingly noticeable.

2. Instant Cloning with Mind Copy.
1PC is built, and a program is set running. It is fed data.
Another PC is built with the same hardware as the first PC. The program running on the first PC is loaded into the new PC. A snapshot, of the first PCs program state and data history, is used to initialize the 2nd PCs program.

Although both are in sync at this point, they will be fed distinct data from here on and thus grow apart form each other.

3. Instant cloning with Mind Copy and Experience Sharing/Communication.
Same as above, but once running, the 2nd PC feeds its experience data to the first, and vis versa. Communication is constant and "self" decisions are shared by discussion.

4. OverMind, many bodys.

Instant Bodys clones are made as needed. Each one is capable of providing its brain as an extra CPU... e.g.

Mainframe. One program running. Whilst running, Hardware is upgrading, adding and removing CPUs as bodies are created/destroyed. Rather than multiple programs being run/stoped, its always the same single program, the same "self" just using more brain capacity when tis their.

I think option 4 is definitely the most desirable, allows self to fully experience all the "Rolls" to which a body is assigned (ala mlx's original ideas) and there can be no concept or worry about either infidelity or clash of self with divergent self (identical twins are far from guaranteed to get along). Also, the self is less threatened by danger to an individual unit/body, and is therefore free to gain the rewards of greater experience through greater risk taking.

SF has dealt with these ideas quite often. A pop SF overmind parallel would be the Borg from ST, although that doesn't use cloning but predatory parasitic invasion/assimilation and has gone way beyond a sensible safety net of a few helpful Units.

This is a good read, and handles clone + mind copy for life extension/self recovery after accident, as well as complications and other themes.

unfortunately, none of which will help mlx do the activities of 5* a single person, or me get to Burning Man any time soon.

oxdottir says...

I express sympathy. It feels very similar here: work has 5 projects due, kid is having adolescent angst I should deal with, I'm trying to keep to a steady exercise regimen, I would like a tiny bit of social life, I want to watch the videos, and my cat just crapped in my bed.

Personally, my priorities go to crap eviction first. I know most people would then move to cat eviction, but I love the furry tyrant, and he's perfect in all other ways.

Thylan says...

I was once renting a room off of a female friend and her cat crapped on my bed. I love Cats. Removed crap. Opened window. Stayed up late on pc while room aired, possibly keeping her awake with my keyboard tapping (unintentional but probably side effect).

Not sure if that is Karma

Thylan says...

^ I honestly didn't foresee that. I must be more Ill than i thought.

Though back on the "people forget about ethics when thinking of clones" clones are still people (of a kind, their being various types) so this would still potentially be slavery/silence of the lambs/unsavory, unless, you are carrying the presupposition that to be Choggie is to be worth some famous foxy ladies sending a clone just to have time to be with you all day...

Did i size the ego right?

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