yep people realy are retarded world wide !

lol allso we will probably have a shit concervatve goverment now rather than lib dem ore something actualy libral. labour is ment to be left wing libral but are actualy fairly concervative, ie blowing up babbies benofiting the ritch more than the pore.

Tony Blair basically followed the USA's lead. Mr. Blair was popular when mirroring Clinton. Once he started following the lead of the least popular US president in history (read entered Iraq War/Downing Street Memo), Mr Blair also lost popularity. The UK decided after WWII to tie their fate to ours, you won't find many examples of where their leadership has differed in regard to foreign policy since then.

Can i delete this double post?

"A few thousand babies died."

Ahhh yes, Blair's infamous baby eating period. It wasn't a popular policy but everyone turned a blind eye. Blair had to eat, right? He had to keep his energy up to run the country.

Also in the interests of fairness, protests outside parliament were probably banned around the time terrorism was stepped up and people started crashing planes into buildings. Even in controlled peaceful protests, there's a high degree of chaos and confusion happening and it's hard to control the people who attend the protest. Not only would it present a distraction and easy/non-suspicious access to a primary terror target such as the houses of parliament, but it would also present thousands of people in attendace to harm or maim or kill. Let's have a look at a few perspectives before we call opression shall we!

I'm not even saying Blair was a good PM, in fact i'll go right out and say he wasn't, but let his actions speak for themselves without exaggerating and distracting from his self-destruction. He made an arse out of himself enough without you generating propoganda.

^ Well if you walk past Parliament Square you'll see Brian Haw protesting there, and he'll be more than happy to show you pictures of the babies maimed and killed by Blair & Bush policies, and explain to you what you might have missed over the last 8 years.

http://www.parliament-square.org.uk/

nobody cares about england, it's been irrelevant for decades

How is England irrelevant in any way? Man, you conservatives are a silly bunch...you'd think you'd at least try to be nice to the one last ally Bush DIDN'T manage to alienate.

I always chuckle to myself when Americans pretend that they aren't owned by the British.

"The Obamania reminds me exactly of the UK 1997 election, when Tony Blair came to power on a wave of optimism with a fresh young face. You know what happened next. A few thousand babies died and protest was banned outside parliament."

I get a little whiff of that myself sometimes.

Not very comforting. We'll find out for sure soon enough.

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I always chuckle to myself when Americans pretend that they aren't owned by the British.


America is the great British experiment.

This doesn't get my vote basically for the fact that cool Britannia was in no way comparable to Obama wining, to be honest, Obama winning was more exicitng over here than cool Britannia ever was, and I was there.

^I see your point: the US electing electing a black man to be president would be more like the UK electing an Irish Catholic to be PM. But I think the point this sifter is trying to make is that the enthusiasm of Blair's win is not unlike the enthusiasm surrounding Obama which Blair failed to live up to.

(I hope that Obama can live up to people's expectations, he may have lot of work ahead of him...)

Aye, the difference being that most of the American lefties that put Obama into office aren't going to sit around and make excuses for him.

Unless they're Democratic loyalists saying "just wait and be patient." Yeah, that's always worked....

But here we are criticizing the poor lad and he's not even in office yet.

And you forget, Great Britain, we are a land of guns.

If no white-supremacist, CIA/Mossad patsy doesn't off the dear man in the mean time, I still hope he holds true to the populace in the face of the Council on Foreign Relations.

He was the "Non-Bush" candidate for many of us.

But I feel like the Titanic has veered a few degrees from the iceberg.

I think he'll prove true. Fingers crossed with hope.

@notarobot: Blair is Catholic, it was kind of a big deal.

@dannym: "protests outside parliament were probably banned around the time terrorism was stepped up and people started crashing planes into buildings" ...
sorry danny, before saying things like "probably" you could just, you know, google, and find out "actually" that protests were banned outside parliament for only one reason, and that is Brian Haw kept insisting on telling the truth about serious war crimes, every day, in parliament square. They made an orwellian exclusion zone, after several failed attempts to remove him.
Also, it is very easy to block traffic in parliament square, I know, because I did it on the day they "debated" whether or not to go to war in Iraq. Kinda embarassing for them.
You could at least explain to me how banning protest makes London any safer from terrorist attack.

@Kerotan: wow, well done, americans are "way more exciting" than the reserved british, who i have only seen go mental for tony blair, princess diana, and soccer. But regardless of the amount of tickertape thrown around, the situation was very similar, years of supposedly "conservative" bungling, followed by a fresh new face promising "change"... people gave him a landslide.

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@notarobot: Blair is Catholic, it was kind of a big deal.
@dannym: "protests outside parliament were probably banned around the time terrorism was stepped up and people started crashing planes into buildings" ...
sorry danny, before saying things like "probably" you could just, you know, google, and find out "actually" that protests were banned outside parliament for only one reason, and that is Brian Haw kept insisting on telling the truth about serious war crimes, every day, in parliament square. They made an orwellian exclusion zone, after several failed attempts to remove him.
Also, it is very easy to block traffic in parliament square, I know, because I did it on the day they "debated" whether or not to go to war in Iraq. Kinda embarassing for them.
You could at least explain to me how banning protest makes London any safer from terrorist attack.
@Kerotan: wow, well done, americans are "way more exciting" than the reserved british, who i have only seen go mental for tony blair, princess diana, and soccer. But regardless of the amount of tickertape thrown around, the situation was very similar, years of supposedly "conservative" bungling, followed by a fresh new face promising "change"... people gave him a landslide.


Wow, well done for sounding like a patronising arsehole, it was difficult, but you managed it, here have a gold star you good boy! I'm well aware of the perceived British reserve, but even so I can't agree that it was that bigger deal (And I think how big the deal is important too), yes Tony Blair was a staunch catholic, but in the same way Obama might be secretly gay in a shame marriage, the point being that Blair took great care not talk about religion and politics in the same sentence, its not like we elected the pope to be PM.

On most of your other points I agree with you, it was a landslide victory and yes the situation was very similar but I don't exactly equatable to Obama's win, even if I was an American living the UK, I don't it would have been possible for me to get any more excited than I was at the time, which to be frank wasn't much.

everyone has there tampons out and about in the air for this comment sectoin

Rofl, westy.