Don't like human rights violations

I agree with your statement Kreegath.

However what is most striking to me is how torture and it's legal application within the current administration goes against American ideals in the 20th century and legally for over 250 years.

During the last century Americans valiantly against these coercive means collectively pointing to them as techniques only utilized by the Nazis, the Khmer Rouge, the VC and the Soviet Union. The US pushed for and developed the Geneva conventions that abolished torture.

But within the span of a few short years they threw out what took decades to create. The Americans no longer can look at themselves as the good guys when it comes to the issue of human rights.

Worst still the President now puts himself above the law, above the house, above the senate, above the supreme court and the American constitution.

Read more at the Washington Monthly.

"In most issues of the Washington Monthly, we favor articles that we hope will launch a debate. In this issue we seek to end one. The unifying message of the articles that follow is, simply, Stop. In the wake of September 11, the United States became a nation that practiced torture. Astonishingly—despite the repudiation of torture by experts and the revelations of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib—we remain one. As we go to press, President George W. Bush stands poised to veto a measure that would end all use of torture by the United States. His move, we suspect, will provoke only limited outcry. What once was shocking is now ordinary."

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This could very well become the great US shame, the dark stain on their history much like the killing of the indians and the segregation in the south.
Of course, most countries in the world have variations of these kinds of crimes in their past, certainly the countries who've held positions of power in the world at one point in time. That doesn't justify human rights violations, and it goes to show there are no such things as "forces of good" and "axis of evil" in the world.

It seems like the US is going to hell in a handbasket... Official promotion of torture, exceedingly weak arguments/lies for war with Iraq, legal inroads to its citizens' rights, the careless printing of money is driving inflation higher, most countries and their citizens strongly dislike the US government (not the people), etc...

I am aware that most generations think they have it the worst, that they are seeing the worst, but I have a question to those that are older or, perhaps, just more knowledgable:

This is pretty bad, isn't it?

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