Sometimes, Canada just seems a more civilized place

The original robberies happened, I get it.
But sometimes, Canada just seems like a less savage place.
I honor you, my Northern neighbors.
siftbotsays...

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SFOGuysays...

I understand. There are so many bad and good people in places. My thing wasn't really about the cops; it was more that a population of people in a "rough" place, that is not rich, could be so very kind and honest.

It was about the people and their goodness.

But I get the anger.

eric3579said:

and how the Canadian Vancouver police (in this one instance) treats the handicap
http://videosift.com/video/Vancouver-Cop-Inexplicably-Assaults-Handicapped-Woman

I know im being a bit of a hater. sometimes i'm so angry i just can't help it

eric3579says...

Im fully aware and get that this was not about cops at all, but the goodness of people. It's why i said i was being a hater. My mind clouded by anger i'm afraid

SFOGuysaid:

I understand. There are so many bad and good people in places. My thing wasn't really about the cops; it was more that a population of people in a "rough" place, that is not rich, could be so very kind and honest.

It was about the people and their goodness.

But I get the anger.

iauisays...

I'm Canadian and live in Vancouver and I definitely can believe that he was treated so well by those around him. It certainly brought a tear to my eye to hear him talk about the generosity of people to those who are disadvantaged. I wonder, though, if it would be that different in the States. I get the impression, @SFOGuy, that you think it would. How come?

SFOGuysays...

You know, I wish it wouldn't be. But I think American society is just more...savage...towards its disadvantaged---and that comes out, I think, in a sort of yell at the spouse, who hits the kid, who kicks the dog sort of way.

It's not a nice way to think about life the States. But I'm guilty of it.

Take, for example, just the question of basic health coverage---Canadians of all stripes and backgrounds know they have it, no questions asked. Or guns (this will be controversial). Even though the guy in the wheelchair was held up with guns, they are just not as prevalent as they are north of the border---and that changes the interpersonal dynamic of a lot of interactions with strangers.

iauisaid:

I'm Canadian and live in Vancouver and I definitely can believe that he was treated so well by those around him. It certainly brought a tear to my eye to hear him talk about the generosity of people to those who are disadvantaged. I wonder, though, if it would be that different in the States. I get the impression, @SFOGuy, that you think it would. How come?

iauisays...

Hmmm... Yeah, health coverage is a big deal for us, and general gun non-existence is surely a big contributor to feeling safe in public. I do wonder whether a policeman in cover in the States would feel 'safe' enough to let some random person get close enough to handle their camera and do up their bag of money; but... I don't know...

I think the same experiment done in the States would mostly go the same way, no? Perhaps not everybody would give exact change but I think the person in the wheelchair would mostly be helped by those he interacted with, no?

SFOGuysaid:

You know, I wish it wouldn't be. But I think American society is just more...savage...towards its disadvantaged---and that comes out, I think, in a sort of yell at the spouse, who hits the kid, who kicks the dog sort of way.

It's not a nice way to think about life the States. But I'm guilty of it.

Take, for example, just the question of basic health coverage---Canadians of all stripes and backgrounds know they have it, no questions asked. Or guns (this will be controversial). Even though the guy in the wheelchair was held up with guns, they are just not as prevalent as they are north of the border---and that changes the interpersonal dynamic of a lot of interactions with strangers.

ulysses1904says...

There obviously is no definitive yes or no answer. But I guarantee you some vidiot would take a clip of an episode of someone in a wheelchair in America getting mistreated, and put it right after one of these benevolent Canadian clips and present it as a social experiment that is representative of the 2 countries.

I can hear Michael Moore's cubs rushing for the editing suite right now.

iauisaid:

Hmmm... Yeah, health coverage is a big deal for us, and general gun non-existence is surely a big contributor to feeling safe in public. I do wonder whether a policeman in cover in the States would feel 'safe' enough to let some random person get close enough to handle their camera and do up their bag of money; but... I don't know...

I think the same experiment done in the States would mostly go the same way, no? Perhaps not everybody would give exact change but I think the person in the wheelchair would mostly be helped by those he interacted with, no?

SFOGuysays...

I wish that a helpless person in a wheelchair might indeed find themselves being treated decently in the United States...I just think, if I were the helpless person, I would rather throw my chances in with the Canadians or Norwegians...
Sad, but true.

iauisaid:

Hmmm... Yeah, health coverage is a big deal for us, and general gun non-existence is surely a big contributor to feeling safe in public. I do wonder whether a policeman in cover in the States would feel 'safe' enough to let some random person get close enough to handle their camera and do up their bag of money; but... I don't know...

I think the same experiment done in the States would mostly go the same way, no? Perhaps not everybody would give exact change but I think the person in the wheelchair would mostly be helped by those he interacted with, no?

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