Ron Paul Opposes Patriot Act on the House Floor

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blankfistsays...

>> ^Psychologic:

>> ^blankfist:
Again. Why is this man not president?

His preference for religion over science seems to be a pretty big problem for some people.


I've heard he believes in creationism (or so it's rumored), but a person's belief doesn't bother me as long as they don't push it on me. And I doubt RP is someone who would push his religious beliefs on anyone.

Psychologicsays...

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^blankfist:
Again. Why is this man not president?

His preference for religion over science seems to be a pretty big problem for some people.

I've heard he believes in creationism (or so it's rumored), but a person's belief doesn't bother me as long as they don't push it on me. And I doubt RP is someone who would push his religious beliefs on anyone.


It's fine if it's someone's personal opinion, but when they hold such a high public office then their ability to consider evidence in a rational way becomes important.

Paul considers evolution "just a theory" with limited scientific support. He's referred to climate change as a possible hoax. He has a lot of very good positions on a lot of issues, but his opponents won't focus on his strong points in national debates.

This isn't to say he would be a good or bad president, but it's one of the reasons he isn't currently president.

blankfistsays...

@Psychologic, I still think that's a pretty flimsy reason to completely denigrate his other views based on something as frivolous as religion. Instead, we get Obama who has done nothing (zero, zilch, nada) to squash the US Imperialism and end the wars. Which is more important when deciding on who to vote for? A man's personal view of religion or his nation-building interventionist warmongering?

This is why I'll never understand statists.

maximilliansays...

He's a great politician but has no charisma to be president and thus will never be elected. He also does not pander to the elite class of America so he will never be funded enough to get elected.

As for his religion, I really doubt he will ever use it in formulating policy. He is probably the most staunch supporter of the constitution than anyone else in office. I would trust his policy making over any other politician.

entr0pysays...

I'm really surprised Ron Paul actually thinks that policies like the patriot act make us safer, even if he thinks it's not worth it. Policies like warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, water torture and unlimited "detention" without trial have only made us into villains. Much of the world's outrage at our behavior is justified, and some of that rage will translate into further attacks.

bareboards2says...

I doubt he actually believes that -- I think he is forestalling the argument that some believe we ARE safer. That's just my guess though.


>> ^entr0py:

I'm really surprised Ron Paul actually thinks that policies like the patriot act make us safer, even if he thinks it's not worth it. Policies like warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, water torture and unlimited "detention" without trial have only made us into villains. Much of the world's outrage at our behavior is justified, and some of that rage will translate into further attacks.

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