Jenkins reminds me of Annette Bening in American Beauty. Creepy.

okay ? so BIg Ol U. S of The A is so advanced and is the best country in the world says the red state reject(s) and she beats and thumps her chest pround. and then say something so backwards so moronic that anyone in an actual decent civil society is rightfully shocked. and those words where " why should I pay for your health care"

Jag'off

Where is Canada? If America can pay for all the Mexican illegal invaders' emergency room visits, shouldn't CANADA, who believes the WHOLE WORLD should have "free" health care, step in and rescue this poor woman?

^Yeah! TRUE AMERICAN patriots shoulda brought guns to this meeting just to remind this single mother that she wouldn't want her daughter to become an orphan! Of course if her daughter had become an orphan, then she woulda been sucking on the government tit for support until she reached the age of majority. Well, that's why you should load more than one round into your weapon, I suppose.

God Bless America! Or the Republic of Redneckistan, if we're forced to secede because of a commie nazi preznit!

Rep. Jenkins: I think we can agree we need reforms, again it’s just how we gonna do it. I believe people should be given the opportunity to take care of themselves with an advancebale tax credit to go be a grown-up and go buy the insurance.

Oh, so then you're in favor of the Obama plan which mostly just gives people a subsidy to buy private insurance, along with consumer protections that guarantee eligibility?

No? Is it the fact that it's using the word "subsidy" instead of "advanceable tax credit"? We can change the language to use the Republican name for entitlement programs, but it won't make a bit of difference in terms of the effect.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Where is Canada? If America can pay for all the Mexican illegal invaders' emergency room visits, shouldn't CANADA, who believes the WHOLE WORLD should have "free" health care, step in and rescue this poor woman?


SOMETIMES WE DO. YOU'RE WELCOME.

We also fight your war.


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There are plenty of recorded incidents where U.S. citizens cross the border, and go see Canadian doctors. Your ignorance is astounding, your argument patently false and indicative of many of your nations citizens who are poorly educated about Canada.


The Difference between Canadian health care and American health care.

"On average, U.S. citizens experience some of the shortest wait times for non-emergency
surgeries among industrialized countries, although the waiting times vary considerably by
procedure [11]. Furthermore, the short waiting times apply mainly to those who have insurance;
for those who do not, the waiting line is arguably infinite."

See the words "for those who do not" in this report on a comparison between US and Canadian waiting times. Yeah, we have some pretty weak things that are going on in our country, in regards to health care. No one is perfect. However, that line, that simple statement "for those who do not" does not exist in Canada.

That is why any argument you can put forward, ie. advances in equipment, wait times, or by my accounts minimal (or, in redneck, - fascist) government oversight, or the treatment of our aboriginal population, any of these arguments fall flat in the face of these following arguments

- Everyone is on the waiting lists that need to be, yet the quality of care does not go down, and we live longer, and people can move up on the waiting lists in case of urgency. (If you show up at the emergency room and need an operation or procedure to save your life, it is provided, free of cost, as with your recuperation and aftercare. Waiting lists are in part a result of brain drain to your stupid country where doctors are paid more, to prescribe unnecessary care to people who don't know any better to enlarge their paychecks, while patients are dropped at fire halls upon discovery that they are uninsured, disgusting behavior I might add.)

- Everyone, including the aboriginal populations in our country, get health care, instead of being denied. Fuck, you almost completed a genocide against your population, am I incorrect? Anyways, I digress. What I love about our system, is an accurate quote from an msnbc article, that reads, "Most have made their appointments that day. None will receive a bill." - You also tax your citizens to go to war in far flung corners of the earth for national security, a government run entity, and yet you balk at the very idea of sending tax dollars towards health care, which SHOULD be a government run organization.

- Our prescription drugs cost much less in our country because pharmaceutical war- i mean, druglords, aren't giving us hourly corporate mandated rectal exams here in the great white north. Huzza! That is why there is a billion dollar industry for us, and that market comes from desperate Americans, unable to afford the medicine that allows them to function, add to their economy, be productive in their society, and not worry about their health care, and thus are free to pursue their liberty, and justice for all. Cue Metallica. (?)

Idiot.

Something about my upbringing gives me psychotic impulses when serious matters are being discussed and the authority figure starts laughing. Do not fucking laugh at my life and death situation.