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Blankfist: You have no idea the impact this episode had on me. I had seen it when it premiered (8 yrs ago?) and had an environmental engineer roommate who unfortunately confirmed all of it to me.

It led me to think of our carbon-footprint in an entirely new scope. Not that I'm less of an environmentalist since viewing, but I'm more realistic. Thankfully, since this episodes premiere, a lot has been done in the realm of solar/grey-water/etc. technologies.

You don't have to be a stupid tree-hugger just to be careful with what you do, purchase, and consume.

Great, great episode of Bullshit!!!

^It really is an amazing episode, but for the record it didn't come out 8 years ago. It's from this season.

Ahh, more specious connections from P&T. They never fail to disappoint when it's science in their line of fire.

Yeah...I think it's pretty shitty to mock environmentalism.

This is the only Earth we've got.

>> ^blankfist:
^It really is an amazing episode, but for the record it didn't come out 8 years ago. It's from this season.


Oh shit, commented before I watched. But because of this 2003 (OK, only 5 yrs ago) episode of P&T's Bullshit:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0672528/

^Oh yeah, Environmental Hysteria is a great episode.

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>> ^blankfist:
^Oh yeah, Environmental Hysteria is a great episode.


You think that's funny?

Then this should really crack you up:

The world's rubbish dump: a garbage tip that stretches from Hawaii to Japan

^Thanks for the laugh.

I like p&a asmuch as the next guy, but that graph that the weather man shows in this part DOES snow a trend. If you think of it as a sin or cos graph, you can see the maxima and minima do shift up in the second half compared to the first.

Draw a line of best fit through that sucker and i bet you a million that sucka would be positive. They do have a point; everyone needs to cut down on the over re-acting bullshit and I hate Gore and his nobel prize. he didnt deserve it or the grant money.

it is just that the graph is bullshit proof against any increase in climate.

al gore is full of sh*t and C02 might be overrated, but take a drive through LA if you think man-made pollution isn't a problem.

LA does have terrible pollution, but you have to understand that concentrated area pollution doesn't mean it's going to do any damage to the environment. In fact, science has shown that emissions from places like LA (and China) are predominantly soot based, meaning they contain heavier matter that falls to the earth when they cool. It causes no known change to the earth's temperature. Science for and against global warming is inconclusive.

Still, breathing soot directly is bad, bad, bad. I hate it. I hate living amongst this shit. In that regard I think we need to work harder to keep the air clean for those of us immediately affected by it.

I think the problem with environmentalism is that it focuses too much on personal carbon foot prints when its really the heavy industry and chemical plants that should be curbing emissions.

I mean I thought it was funny when Al Gore made it seem like everyone driving a car is to blame but not big business.

I live in the Persian gulf and I see oil tankers empty low level tanks when taking in new fuel, the water here comes in desalinated from the sea but not all of it, there's nothing like pulling out a water filter thats made of solid oil from my water tank.

>> ^wjolson:
I like p&a asmuch as the next guy, but that graph that the weather man shows in this part DOES snow a trend. If you think of it as a sin or cos graph, you can see the maxima and minima do shift up in the second half compared to the first.
Draw a line of best fit through that sucker and i bet you a million that sucka would be positive.

While you are right, the fluctuation does have an upward trend, that is not the point the weatherman is making. He is merely pointing out that the temperature fluctuates as the solar activity, a factor that is independent of atmospheric CO2, fluctuates.

The same upward trend is seen in the solar activity, accounting for the observed temperature changes.

I'm not saying that global warming is CO2 independent, far from it. But the graph does have significant merit.

Thank you for sifting this episode. There are way too many people who don't question environmental issues enough. We all love the earth and I think it's great that we take care of it, but we need to not be blind sheep and really see what has an impact.

I support less emissions in the LA area (where I live) not because I think it's saving the earth, but because I like to breath clean air.

Libertarians.

The "it doesn't effect me personally at the moment so why should I care" party.

Democrats.

The "we know what's best for everyone and we'll force everyone to do as we say" party.

>> ^Farhad2000:
I think the problem with environmentalism is that it focuses too much on personal carbon foot prints when its really the heavy industry and chemical plants that should be curbing emissions.
I mean I thought it was funny when Al Gore made it seem like everyone driving a car is to blame but not big business.
I live in the Persian gulf and I see oil tankers empty low level tanks when taking in new fuel, the water here comes in desalinated from the sea but not all of it, there's nothing like pulling out a water filter thats made of solid oil from my water tank.


thats pretty much what I was saying. We should really be worrying about all the tons of arsenic, lead, mercury and other heavy metals we put into our lungs.

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