Tv and games are not a problem at all as long as a person gets exsorsize and real world physical exsperances. the problem that thay relay need to investigate is why there is so much crap on tv why rnt there more kids programs that teach science or culture in a easy to understand way. The same aplies to adult programs why are there so many crappy drama,s about deistic life where the majority of it is just arguments. now i know the resoin is because its esear and cheeper to produce a crappy drama/cartoon than a well thought out peace of entertainment thats educatoinal and not boring.

its stupid attacking TV and games outright because it dose not achieve anything i personally hated school and i found it hard to learn in a boring and slow classroom environment. If it wasn't for tv history programs, science drama's ,French language programs, televised lectures, televised debates , computer games such as operation flashpiont , dance dance revalutoin,half life, populous,rome total war,
. (list goes on) then i wouldn't have the wide and i like to think open minded view of the world i do today in fact some of my most profound thoughts were sparked by tv films and games.

Its rather a shame that to this pint none has mad a Fun game that inadvertently teaches spelling, as a games designer maybe thats something i will do .

I want to watch the same experiment but with videosift!

I'm sorry I almost finished this, but it began to get a little boring. Sorry. Do adults really need an experiment to learn what will happen w/o tv? Just turn it off?

I respect parents that have taken them out, at the same time I don't think there's a problem with a child watching a favorite program or two once a week.

TVs today have parental controls and dvr boxes which we use extensively. The child can pick his/her favorite program or two...it gets recorded. The rest of the time the tv is locked with a password.

During school session, the video games wait till the weekend and child can watch his recorded shows then too. No problem.

It is true...if your child isn't a strong reader, or if you're having trouble getting your child to read, the tv and games must go COMPLETELY.

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And you're absolutely right about VS! We're starting school up again this week, so maybe I should give an example huh?

Sounds like you get a big kick out of exercising your power over your children's lives.

Kids love television because it teaches them about the world, quickly and diversely. Learning is the whole point of a child's existence. Take away any of a child's opportunities to learn and you will damage the child by limiting the growth of their mind. You only have to look at the average mind - twisted, diseased, hollow, to see the consequences of the standard parenting model.

Leave your children alone; they know better than you how they should spend their time. Every successive generation is smarter than the one that came before, so what right have you to tell a superior mind how to live its life? Progress depends on the new ideas that come from new perspectives. The next generation is upon you - submit. You had your chance, your time is done.

@Gorillman. I hope you were kidding around...but in case you weren't. You've ruffle a few parental feathers w/ that remark.

"Sounds like you get a big kick out of exercising your power over your children's lives"

mmuuauahahhaha...how did you guess? Yes I have them slaving away right now as a matter a fact. They're moving dirt from one part of the yard to another and then back again in 98 degree heat... I do this sometimes for laughs.

"Kids love television because it teaches them about the world, quickly and diversely."

Yes, haven't you heard that BOOKS do the same thing and more? They are actively obtaining this information instead of sitting passively on a sofa in front of a tube. They may learn a bit of history...good literature, art, and the classics that's in real language instead of having it dumbed down and spoon fed to them like TV does.

"Take away any of a child's opportunities to learn and you will damage the child by limiting the growth of their mind. "

Yes, you're right... I'll tell them to turn on the Nick right now and watch Spongebog...and forget about the Dickens, Swift or Verne I had planned to read w/ them and stunt their mental growth.

"Leave your children alone; they know better than you how they should spend their time"

Are you kidding me?? I'm sure a child will SELF TEACH everything they need to know for life without any help or guidance whatsoever ?

"so what right have you to tell a superior mind how to live its life? Progress depends on the new ideas that come from new perspectives."

I see how my children will outdo me all the time. IT'S A PARENTS GOAL FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO OUTSHINE THEM you idiot! Yes, I hope my children will have more knowledge, opportunities and something to offer their generation.

These ideas you talk about...these inspirations will come from 5 to 7 hours of tv and videogames a day? I think not.

This is how you raise you children? They may or may not have a superior mind than we have... I hope they do. But what I have that they do NOT have is life experience, wisdom from it, and motivation for their happiness and success as adults.

Ah forget what I just said.. yeah, I have kids for the powertrip. I think I'll go torture them now w/ a trip to the library and maybe a park afterwards.

and one more thing....

I'm not a buddy, a pal, a friend down the street, or just a Q&A station.

So many mothers and fathers make the mistake in being just a pal, or buddy with their kids. Children need leadership too.

Parenting is a responsibility..and a job. You are a caretaker and educator. You provide love, affection and the freedom to learn and grow in a safe environment.


I'm a parent. Before anything else...a parent first. And don't kid yourself into thinking the job description is anything less than that. If so, then you my friend are a fool.

A parents job is to be a guide and caretaker, exactly, not a tyrant. Power corrupts they say, consider the effect of total control over another person's life.

Your prejudice against television is backward and unfounded; you need to stop inflicting that madness on the future just because you want to feel clever. Books are only a primitive, less descriptive, slower form of film after all. And now we have the internet. Presumably you allow your children unfettered access to humanity's greatest accomplishment?

If your goal is for your children to outshine you, you must give them freedom. Limiting and distorting a child's experience at every turn will not grow their mind.

aw gorillaman, raising hackles eh??? Like most kids, perhaps, during that time, chog hadda shit load of TV....probly watched it berfore 2 yrs old too, hence the fucking attention span of a goddamn gnat....It did not take long, to figure it out, nor years of controlled studies by experts, and their results.....yeah, should have fucking been taught to gather information from books better, tv and ignorant parents, played a part....such is the draw-luck.........

Can tell you, your ideas about each successive generation, blah blah blah???? In America, its just the fucking opposite....they get stoopider, more passive aggressive, and more dependent upon their keepers than the previous ones...wouldn't call that more intelligent....would call that a fucking tragedy.....No, they become a worthless storehouse of useless trivia, which makes them appear smart, to other idgits who have come out of our completely FUCKED, university systems.......So....all you 20 somethings??? Get yer degree, work hard at being "smarter" and maybe the next time your ass is filled by your head, you can have the presence of mind, to extricate it......

what you gotta love about this Brit mum here, is that when she sees their kids "tantrum"...it is managed well by her, in that she does not run to him as he whines, trying to placate, feeding a fucked program.....He is unable to run that game on her....you see gorillaman, in America, you don't have many parents anymore, you have , skilled breeders, who know DICK, about how to raise kids....hence the fatties, hence the whiners, the passive-aggressive, and the hopeless addiction, to fucking video games...let the grocery trucks stop running for a week, and watch America, lose her mindless mind
Amen

(excellent post fedquip....television is the wonder drug that got this country, to the point of no return it is today)

Yeah, with that in mind (what choggie said to Fed), I have to agree it deserves a vote.

the net and tv should be used as tools, monitored and restricted up to a point by parents.
i think using computers, the net and gaming speeds up reaction times, thinking, research, studying, the list goes on... children need to be taught by real people to gain a good attention span and patience though

That's right. Moderation...tons of it. I think Gorillaman mistook me as some Amish wannabe that makes my kids get up at 5 to make soap or something.
We have xbox,wii,ps2,gamecube..they have the DS's even...but they have them maybe at the end of the day, and on weekends. Because there is a world outside to EXPERIENCE instead of vicariously living through tv programs.

Since when does TV show us what the real world is like, Gorillaman? Nothing is honest through the tube..it's all prewritten and staged. Even the nature shows do it.

My little 8 year old boy most likely could wipe the floor with your hinders on Halo and StarWars Battlefront, but he can also tell you the story of Beowulf that he learned from a BOOK. They don't adapt classics for children on Nick.

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