First of all... his bike was not totaled. If he managed to calmly bring it to a stop, and then make it start again, and ride it, that's far from totaled.

Secondly... he was doing 85 when he it the deer, on a small road. I wish the bike was so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again. Douchebag.

Was that a fake, or his real license plate in his bag at the end? Is that what these Adrenaline junkies do? Switch out plates and go speeding?

First of all, "totaled" doesn't mean his bike was totally obliterated; it means it was written off because the damage costs more to repair than the vehicle is worth. If he had to stop because of engine damage then it is very possible it was totaled.

Secondly, wishing someone was dead - as having a bike get "so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again" generally means a dead rider - because they were speeding makes you look like either a fucked up troll or a seriously disturbed individual.
>> ^EMPIRE:

First of all... his bike was not totaled. If he managed to calmly bring it to a stop, and then make it start again, and ride it, that's far from totaled.
Secondly... he was doing 85 when he it the deer, on a small road. I wish the bike was so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again. Douchebag.

Apparently you forgot how to read, because I clearly don't say that I wish him dead. I wish his bike was really so fucked up he would never ride it again. You think doing 85 on a country road is ok? And then I'm the troll....



>> ^Skeeve:

First of all, "totaled" doesn't mean his bike was totally obliterated; it means it was written off because the damage costs more to repair than the vehicle is worth. If he had to stop because of engine damage then it is very possible it was totaled.
Secondly, wishing someone was dead - as having a bike get "so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again" generally means a dead rider - because they were speeding makes you look like either a fucked up troll or a seriously disturbed individual.
>> ^EMPIRE:
First of all... his bike was not totaled. If he managed to calmly bring it to a stop, and then make it start again, and ride it, that's far from totaled.
Secondly... he was doing 85 when he it the deer, on a small road. I wish the bike was so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again. Douchebag.

This is why the instructors always teach you to speed up, rather than slow down, when you see an animal and have make an emergency maneuver.

You'll either graze him, or miss him entirely.

>> ^Peroxide:

Was that a fake, or his real license plate in his bag at the end? Is that what these Adrenaline junkies do? Switch out plates and go speeding?


Most people just get flip up plates, or mount their plates in such a way where red light camera's and/or police can't easily spot them.

Most police will not chase a motorcycle so there is no reason to have fake plates. I believe the fake plate is a much stiffer penalty than improper mounting.

*timeshift Collision happens at about 5:58 in.

Adding video to channels (Timeshift) - requested by UsesProzac.

>> ^UsesProzac:

timeshift Collision happens at about 5:58 in.


Thanks much - I missed that.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Apparently you forgot how to read, because I clearly don't say that I wish him dead. I wish his bike was really so fucked up he would never ride it again. You think doing 85 on a country road is ok? And then I'm the troll....

Speed safety is relative to the conditions.

As a motorcycle rider for over 20 years, and a racer for 5 of those, there was nothing that would have stopped me doing 100+ on the roads that he was on - dead straight with great visibility, dry road and good surface condition.

Maybe you're the one that needs more lessons?

Also, the guy had a serious accident and didn't run out of road and crash, hit an oncoming car and crash, or just fall off and crash. To me that justifies his speed.

Also, if he'd have been going FASTER he'd have missed the deer anyway - surely that's safer too?

And finally, upvote for the 998R @ 5:40

Of course... OF COURSE. Because we all know accidents only happen in bad roads, with bad visibility, and when it's raining.

And the rest of your comment is filled with such inane bullshit, I'm not even gonna take the time to talk about it, since you are obviously a lost cause.




>> ^antonye:

>> ^EMPIRE:
Apparently you forgot how to read, because I clearly don't say that I wish him dead. I wish his bike was really so fucked up he would never ride it again. You think doing 85 on a country road is ok? And then I'm the troll....
Speed safety is relative to the conditions.
As a motorcycle rider for over 20 years, and a racer for 5 of those, there was nothing that would have stopped me doing 100+ on the roads that he was on - dead straight with great visibility, dry road and good surface condition.
Maybe you're the one that needs more lessons?
Also, the guy had a serious accident and didn't run out of road and crash, hit an oncoming car and crash, or just fall off and crash. To me that justifies his speed.
Also, if he'd have been going FASTER he'd have missed the deer anyway - surely that's safer too?
And finally, upvote for the 998R @ 5:40

>> ^EMPIRE:

Of course... OF COURSE. Because we all know accidents only happen in bad roads, with bad visibility, and when it's raining.
And the rest of your comment is filled with such inane bullshit, I'm not even gonna take the time to talk about it, since you are obviously a lost cause.

By your logic, all motorsports should be banned because they drive/ride too fast?
After all, they're speeding too so it can't be safe, right?

Here's 10p; go buy yourself a clue and come back when you have a real argument.

thank you for proving yourself an idiot without my help.

Here's something that those 20 years of experience may not have taught you... Race Track not the same as an open public road. So obviously I have no problem with motorsports. I do have a problem with street racers though. They're a bunch of fucking nitwits.




>> ^antonye:

>> ^EMPIRE:
Of course... OF COURSE. Because we all know accidents only happen in bad roads, with bad visibility, and when it's raining.
And the rest of your comment is filled with such inane bullshit, I'm not even gonna take the time to talk about it, since you are obviously a lost cause.
By your logic, all motorsports should be banned because they drive/ride too fast?
After all, they're speeding too so it can't be safe, right?
Here's 10p; go buy yourself a clue and come back when you have a real argument.

I don't think Empire is concerned about getting lessons. I think what Empire is talking about here is that going "100+" on back roads isn't safe for OTHER people. I don't think anybody particularly cares whether or not it's safe for the rider. His life is in his own hands. But what if that was a little kid running out into the road and getting sliced like that?

I know, I know, "LOL!, but little kids don't run as fast as deer!!1 elevensy!!11". That's not the point.

>> ^Skeeve:

First of all, "totaled" doesn't mean his bike was totally obliterated; it means it was written off because the damage costs more to repair than the vehicle is worth. If he had to stop because of engine damage then it is very possible it was totaled.
Secondly, wishing someone was dead - as having a bike get "so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again" generally means a dead rider - because they were speeding makes you look like either a fucked up troll or a seriously disturbed individual.
>> ^EMPIRE:
First of all... his bike was not totaled. If he managed to calmly bring it to a stop, and then make it start again, and ride it, that's far from totaled.
Secondly... he was doing 85 when he it the deer, on a small road. I wish the bike was so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again. Douchebag.



Over reaction for the win, where did he wish anyone was dead? I think you're fucked up for automatically assuming people want other people dead!

What i love about this SEVEN TIMES upvoted comment, is that you completely manipulated his words and twisted his meaning, and then called him fucked up based on that twisted meaning.

This is worthy of a dystopian comment!

He was speeding, i also hope he has to buy a new bike, maybe he'll think twice about speeding next time. Glad he's alive though.

Maybe you have never seen a motorcycle before so I will reiterate what I said: if a motorcycle hits something hard enough that it gets so damaged it can't be ridden again, in the vast majority of cases the rider dies. It was a simple enough connection to make.

As for the comments about the danger, while it may be irresponsible for this guy to be speeding, of any place to be speeding it looks like this is probably one of the best; out of the city, on dry, clean roads with little traffic and few possible obstacles. Much better than the hundreds of videos of people speeding around cities.

Further, the idea that speeding, in and of itself, is some horrible thing, is a fallacy that Americans have been hypersensualized to. 85 mph is a standard speed on the autobahn in Germany (and many of the roads are not dissimilar from this one) and it has a lower accident rate than most American highways/freeways. It's not speed, it's crappy drivers/riders.
>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Skeeve:
First of all, "totaled" doesn't mean his bike was totally obliterated; it means it was written off because the damage costs more to repair than the vehicle is worth. If he had to stop because of engine damage then it is very possible it was totaled.
Secondly, wishing someone was dead - as having a bike get "so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again" generally means a dead rider - because they were speeding makes you look like either a fucked up troll or a seriously disturbed individual.
>> ^EMPIRE:
First of all... his bike was not totaled. If he managed to calmly bring it to a stop, and then make it start again, and ride it, that's far from totaled.
Secondly... he was doing 85 when he it the deer, on a small road. I wish the bike was so trashed he couldn't ride it ever again. Douchebag.


Over reaction for the win, where did he wish anyone was dead? I think you're fucked up for automatically assuming people want other people dead!
What i love about this SEVEN TIMES upvoted comment, is that you completely manipulated his words and twisted his meaning, and then called him fucked up based on that twisted meaning.
This is worthy of a dystopian comment!
He was speeding, i also hope he has to buy a new bike, maybe he'll think twice about speeding next time. Glad he's alive though.

@Skeeve - i don't want to turn this into a point by point, but i have several things to reply;

Firstly, i know plenty about motorbikes, do not presume that you automatically know more than everyone around you - motorbike knowledge is unimportant in thise case however as the connection was IN YOUR HEAD, not in his comment and therein lies the bullshittery. You superimposed YOUR opinion/meaning over his own words and then insulted him based on that. Please at least consider what i am saying carefully before you refute this, because it's undeniable. You made the connection, not him. He simply wished that the guy's bike was broken.

Secondly, i am not american.

The size of the speed limit is not necessarily the factor that makes what he was doing dangerous, whether it is 70 or 85, i believe this is unimportant. What is important is that we all agree to a speed limit. Other (more sensible) road users get accustomed to distances, reaction times, things like that and when people disregard the speed limit, it affects other road users. If i pull out of a junction or cross a street in front of a car travelling at 30mph, it's safe. If that car is travelling at 55 because he's "a good driver, in control of his vehicle", well now we have an accident, and i can hardly be blamed for assuming his speed to be the legally set 30mph or lower

I'll bow out of this now, i've made my point, i think anything more will just be rubbing it in. I felt someone had to stand up for the poor guy who basically got accused of something he never did and insulted for it.

"Not dissimilar" from the German autobahn? You're out of your mind dude.

The German autobahn is always at least a four lane road with directions of traffic completely separated by either barriers or distance. Not to mention the fact that it never butts directly to suburban yards mere feet away from the actual houses without even a fence for protection. The two roads (or, one road and one highway) could not be more dissimilar.

And Danny is right. The person in the video was obviously alright by the end of the vid. So when empire said he wished "his bike was so trashed he could never ride it again", it was with the knowledge that the guy was already OK! So in no way can any part of his comment be interpreted as wishing harm on the individual, only his bike. I can't believe I'm even trying to explain this but I like ranting while I drink my coffee in the morning.

I can't believe that you got Danny and I to agree on something. That's a pretty amazing accomplishment in and of itself.

>> ^EMPIRE:

thank you for proving yourself an idiot without my help.
Here's something that those 20 years of experience may not have taught you... Race Track not the same as an open public road. So obviously I have no problem with motorsports. I do have a problem with street racers though. They're a bunch of fucking nitwits.

So now you're switching your argument to "street racers" (whatever they are) rather than speed? Make your mind up!

>> ^Ryjkyj:

I don't think Empire is concerned about getting lessons. I think what Empire is talking about here is that going "100+" on back roads isn't safe for OTHER people. I don't think anybody particularly cares whether or not it's safe for the rider. His life is in his own hands. But what if that was a little kid running out into the road and getting sliced like that?
I know, I know, "LOL!, but little kids don't run as fast as deer!!1 elevensy!!11". That's not the point.


No, you've missed the point as well...

If there are kids around, you have to take that into account when you ride. Anything that you hit as a motorcyclist could have you off and/or kill you - children, deer, lamp posts - so it's not just the other thing that will get hurt, but you as well. I don't want to crash and kill myself any more than I want to hit and kill something else.

To make my point clear: if the posted limit is 30mph and it's outside a school when the young kids come out, driving at 30mph is way too fast. It's unsafe, even though that's the posted limit.

The same road at 2am on a weekend with nobody around could be safe for 60mph. That's safe, even though it's over the limit.

So as I said up there, speed is not conducive to safety, which is a point that many people (and a few on here it seems) completely fail to grasp.

What's going on in this thread is more retarded than anything that occurred in that video.

"The same road at 2am on a weekend with nobody around could be safe for 60mph. That's safe, even though it's over the limit."

Not safe. It's safer, but that's a different thing. In a built up area you don't know what could step out from behind a parked car, or tree or whatever is around. You can claim you can, but you can't. What you're saying is that it's unlikely there's anything there to hit. Which is true. But unlikely is not the same as it being guaranteed. On a race track the whole area is controlled. You can be sure that there aren't any kids about to run out in front of you. You can go as fast as you like and that's fine. You know the surface of the track is prepared and cleaned, and even if it isn't if you come off there are run off zones and safety barriers to stop you safely. But in the real world things are just never this controlled. Never. There could be oil on the road, there could be mud/stones/whatever. If you come off you could end up hitting the guy walking home from the nightclub, or just killing yourself.

You obviously feel that the risk of killing someone is one worth taking. Please don't try to say that driving through a residential area at 60mph in a 30mph limit isn't risking killing someone because it is. Every time I get in my car, or you get on your bike we risk killing someone, be it ourselves or someone else. Driving or riding over the speed limit drastically increases the chance of any collision being deadly. This guy in the video hits the dear, which would have happened to the best of riders. This forces him onto the wrong side of the road, which again could have happened to any rider. He's just lucky there isn't anyone coming the other way. This has nothing to do with skill. It's luck. I don't like that you are choosing to increase the chances of killing someone else by speeding, and advocating speeding. Like it or not this is the case.

It seems I'm not the only one thinking this way. You're obviously not going to win anyone over to your 'speed is safe' ideas. Speed kills. As for the 60 in a 30 zone thing, if you hit someone at 30mph they have around an 80% chance of survival. If you hit them at 40mph they have around an 80% chance of death. (Figures from UK road safety campaign)

You can choose to ride how you like. You can fool yourself into thinking the world is predictable and easy. So far you've been right, but you're one person, statistically completely unimportant. The fact that you've gotten away with it is no argument at all. Think what you like, but the facts simply don't support your view.

All of us that think the rider in the video was going too fast should really stop talking to the people arguing how it was safe. You will NEVER get one of THOSE people to admit what they do is in any way dangerous. It's not in their mindset. They bought their crotch rocket to compensate for what is lacking down there (They have the extra room you see).

There are two types of former "Super Bike" riders, ones that crash and burn severely enough to stop them ever physically riding a bike again (eg. dismemberment, death), and ones that grow up.

Anyone saying that his speed was fine because he didn't explode in a firey ball of gasoline and body parts kinda misses the fact if he WASN'T going that fast he wouldn't have hit the deer in the first place, if for the only reason that he wouldn't have been there yet.

There will always be people who want to ride fast and we can't change that. Just like there will be people who always want to own guns, or drink alcohol, or whatever.

The only thing we can hope for is that people do it in the safest way possible.

Now I know not everyone that drinks alcohol rents a room for the night to make sure they don't drive drunk, or stumble into the road and cause an accident, or throw up on some strangers shoes igniting a huge drunken brawl.

I know not everyone that owns a gun will always shoot it at a range or in a sanctioned hunting area.

It's the same way that not everyone who wants to ride a motorcycle fast will always take it to the track.

I understand why everyone here is upset. But we can't stop everyone from doing everything that is wrong all the time. Is what these riders doing wrong? Yes. Is it dangerous? Yes. But at least it's on some middle of the road nowhere (yes there are houses in the beginning but after that it looks like farmland) place. I didn't see a school bus stop or an orphanage or some kind of cute animal factory. I'm not saying it wasn't there, but I highly doubt these people would take their very expensive motorcycles on this road in such a large group if they thought there was a chance of their bikes getting wrecked.

If anyone here truly truly can tell me they always take all precautions necessary in life, then they are a better person than I am. Otherwise I suggest everyone take a look inward and realize they do things that can potentially hurt other people too, but just always minimize the risk.

D'oh! A deer!

*dead

This video has been declared non-functional; embed code must be fixed within 2 days or it will be sent to the dead pool - declared dead by jonny.

Thanks @jonny - don't know why the guy decided to disable embedding by request so late after the video was uploaded, but his other edit of the same video (which is more focused anyway showing the hit in slow-mo) is still embeddable. Does it work for you now? Seems to be working here.