Marathons | David Mitchell's Soapbox

DMSB: David Mitchell analyses marathon runners this week, and what the logic is behind their attempts to raise money for charity. Surely all the time they spend training, would have been better spent working a job? After all, they would make a lot more money for charity!
Yogisays...

This is sort of an argument from ignorance here. He doesn't understand running...he doesn't understand running with people. He also doesn't understand that if they weren't running for charity they would just be running, because that's what we do we're a running people.

Humans are meant to run for long long distances, it's in our genetics and our history. So while I love David Mitchell, it's just the sort of thing that if he put a little more thought into this video or maybe asked someone, it would've made a lot more sense.

Phreezdrydsays...

The perspective of a non-runner to an audience of mostly non-runners, in a society where the majority seems perfectly happy not running. It's been a while since running long distance was a necessity, depending on geography and available technology.

Yogisays...

>> ^Phreezdryd:

The perspective of a non-runner to an audience of mostly non-runners, in a society where the majority seems perfectly happy not running. It's been a while since running long distance was a necessity, depending on geography and available technology.


True...we could argue whether or not it's been a positive thing or a negative thing. I fall in the middle...as in it's great we have all this technology but it would be even better if we also ran a bunch.

Phreezdrydsays...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Phreezdryd:
The perspective of a non-runner to an audience of mostly non-runners, in a society where the majority seems perfectly happy not running. It's been a while since running long distance was a necessity, depending on geography and available technology.

True...we could argue whether or not it's been a positive thing or a negative thing. I fall in the middle...as in it's great we have all this technology but it would be even better if we also ran a bunch.

Some form of exercise would be good all around to be sure. How about the idea that we shouldn't be running in shoes, although supposedly designed to cushion and enhance, have been found to possibly be the culprit for whatever injuries runners suffer from. Simply not natural, and we wouldn't try to put shoes on a cheetah.

westysays...

>> ^Yogi:

This is sort of an argument from ignorance here. He doesn't understand running...he doesn't understand running with people. He also doesn't understand that if they weren't running for charity they would just be running, because that's what we do we're a running people.
Humans are meant to run for long long distances, it's in our genetics and our history. So while I love David Mitchell, it's just the sort of thing that if he put a little more thought into this video or maybe asked someone, it would've made a lot more sense.


In what way is it an argument from ignorance ?

All of what he said could have been said by sum-one that fully understands running , running with people , running for charity ,running for fitness , running as a socail activity.

He is not saying running is bad , or running with other people is bad he is just calling out the arbitrary nature of marathons.


I agree you can make the argument that some people would only run in the first place or chose to run in order to train for a marathon and so it serves that function of popular support and brain washing to make sure you train and have obvouse goal to train for.
and it also gets people involved with raising money for charity when they might not have otherwise however he is not arguing for or against those things.

Pritty much all of David mitchels arguments are pedantic and i'm sure you can de construct many of them in a negative way but there is still an element of truth to them and they call out some aspects of human nature that are arbitrary or often taken for granted as serous endevers when in reality they are just as absurd as anything else.

Yogisays...

>> ^Phreezdryd:

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Phreezdryd:
The perspective of a non-runner to an audience of mostly non-runners, in a society where the majority seems perfectly happy not running. It's been a while since running long distance was a necessity, depending on geography and available technology.

True...we could argue whether or not it's been a positive thing or a negative thing. I fall in the middle...as in it's great we have all this technology but it would be even better if we also ran a bunch.

Some form of exercise would be good all around to be sure. How about the idea that we shouldn't be running in shoes, although supposedly designed to cushion and enhance, have been found to possibly be the culprit for whatever injuries runners suffer from. Simply not natural, and we wouldn't try to put shoes on a cheetah.


Yeah I run with special "Barefootie" type shoes because it helps my knees. Everyone should run.

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