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chicchoreasays...*Ban anyone?!
SELF LINK CHAMPION OF THE SIFT SINCE 05/2009!
Self Link.
This video links to YT account, Lucchina75.
8 out of ten Sifted videos of this poster are by the same YT poster. This one within hours of posting on YT, Lucchina75.
14 out of 23 Unsifted videos by the same YT account, Lucchina75.
23 of 34 videos from the same YT account and almost all of them home videos of family pets or livestock.
Four other videos removed by user.
Two other accounts had multiple representations among the remaining few videos.
How did this get by everyone for so long?!
siftbotsays...Invocations (ban) cannot be called by chicchorea because chicchorea is not privileged - sorry.
chicchoreasays...*discuss
Should this be a *ban?
As I am unworthy, perhaps for good reason, I am forwarding it to you who are worthy and rightfully so.
Is this not a Self Link?
This video links to YT account, Lucchina75.
8 out of ten Sifted videos of this poster are by the same YT poster. This one within hours of posting on YT, Lucchina75.
14 out of 23 Unsifted videos by the same YT account, Lucchina75.
23 of 34 videos from the same YT account and almost all of them home videos of family pets or livestock, a horse.
Thank you.
siftbotsays...Invocations (ban) cannot be called by chicchorea because chicchorea is not privileged - sorry.
siftbotsays...Moving this video to Tigroom's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
bleedmegoodsays...*ban ....
siftbotsays...Tigroom has been nominated for banination by bleedmegood. This may be due to abuse or violations of the posting guidelines. If this nomination is seconded, the account will be permanently disabled.
gwiz665says...I'm not entirely certain of this. While I'm usually happy with the banhammer, I like to give the benefit of the doubt - it could be entirely innocent.
What say @Tigroom?
bleedmegoodsays...If it is entirely innocent I'm going to feel like a giant dick. It doesn't look good tho..... chicchorea makes a compelling case. Perhaps I should have put it up for discussion instead...I figured a ban nomination would have to be seconded and would essentially do the same thing (send the video to sifttalk).
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
I'd like to hear @Tigroom 's defense.
peggedbeasays...i have an entire playlist of videos from one youtube account, the first several videos i ever sifted are from the same youtube account.
it could be innocent.
Tigroomsays...>> ^dag:
I'd like to hear @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Tigroom" title="member since May 18th, 2009" class="profilelink">Tigroom 's defense.
Some of comments, here, reminds me the worst moments of History, read in books. I’m ashamed to have met such people here. No defense : Bye!
gwiz665says...Good bye.
*ban
siftbotsays...Tigroom has been seconded for banination by gwiz665. This account will now be disabled. If you would like to appeal this banination, Tigroom, you may contact the administrators.
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
A bit harsh, but we've clearly demonstrated that the accused was a witch.
[edit: sorry wrong court room]
geo321says...I was expecting more of a defence. Like he had a circle of friends on youtube that made their own videos and supported eachother. Maybe I'm looking too much for the best in people. Anyway I'm rambling. Good call Chicchorea, you're like the Columbo of VS.
chicchoreasays...I've mulled over this for...the evening. My thought are what I had earlier pretty much.
Am I convinced of Tigroom's guilt absolutely? No. Would I be more comfortable having such conviction? Yes. I welcomed the expression and extension of benefit of doubt. I also welcomed the opportunity to present the situation to those of you who have more experience and knowledge. I remain, however, of the inclination to think him a strong candidate for a self link. Apart from that which is presented above, there are other pieces to the puzzle. For instance, when I first presented Tigroom with my concerns, he upvoted my comment and videos. He also upvoted Sifty's admonition regarding the perceived attempt to ban on my part. I found the Galyja account. It exhibited a strong voting correlation to Tigroom vids and shared an inception date. I inquired about any affiliation. I received a somewhat personal response, defensive, but no denial. He removed my reply and comment from his profile page. I actually took this to an individual whom I respect and trust and it was their feeling that the relationship was not clear enough to conclude absolutely a self link. I both trusted and understood their reasoning. I, indeed, shared it. I hadm in the interim sought to present the case here but failed. Additionally, there was a dead vid to add to the list.
I have the distinct feeling that the Sift will not hear further from or about the Galyja account BTW.
I made an earnest plea to Tigroom for his side. I presented that understanding and equanimity are offered here. His response, of course, provided little with which to assess guilt or otherwise. His indignation was a bit overreaching, no hint of denial. To simply be asked of an affiliation concurrently with such basis is hardly indicative of persecution much less a witch hunt, Dag.
Dag, sir, will you or do say that the bannation was wrongful?
Dag, your comment is not lost on me. That Dag, however couched, terms this a witch hunt and trial strikes me hard. To the extent that he may be right I accept responsibility and apologize. I am working on learning what I can to do better by the Sift and those in it. To any extent that he may be in error, I consider moot. I also am not, by my conclusions characterizing the actions of anyone else as culpable or wrong. I trust and have faith in their processes.
bleedmegoodsays...I have disgraced my community. i will now commit the sift-seppuku........just fucking around, I will do no such thing. To be likened to a Salem witch tribunal or McCarthy era blacklister is a personal first. The only thing i would have done differently is send it up for discussion rather than making the ban nomination without giving tigroom the benefit of making a defense, but you live and you learn....i'm all for encouraging anyone who chooses to participate on the sift by posting and adding content...I just don't want to see the sift devolve into a spammers paradise for multi-level marketing schemes and penis-enhancing herbal supplements. Neither do I want to see the sift exploited by people trying to clock adsense dollars from their personal youtube accounts. When it comes to maintaining the integrity of vs, I believe this to be a far more important issue than snuff or the art/pornography issue. Just now I've realized that I've devoted far too much thought into this issue..........meh.
gwiz665says...He got the benefit of the doubt, he chose to spit at us. End of story. *discard
siftbotsays...Discarding this post - discard requested by member gwiz665.
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