I made it until 1:30, when the moron said "I used to believe in evolution. It all began with this big bang..."
Ignorance from the start. Unbelievable.

hi,
i'm dr jobe martin and i am a dentist.
now dont let my biblical name fool you.
because through my career with teeth i have come to understand that evolution is wrong.
why?
because i am a dentist and that means i am a doctor which gives my thoughts and conclusions on biology more weight and authority.
ken miller?
never heard of him.

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Ignore, for a moment, the factual errors (eg the bombardier beetle does not produce an explosion). The important thing to understand, in my opinion, is that many of these are good questions to ask.

How could the bombardier beetle's defense mechanism have evolved? Now I know this question has been addressed in detail already, but assume it's being asked for the first time. The answer to this question is going to be enlightening, one way or another. Either biologists will provide an answer (enlightening) or we will find a gaping hole in our understanding of evolution (enlightening). These are both positive outcomes and nobody should be criticized for asking, even today when the answer is readily available to anyone with internet access.

There are things that should be criticized, however. First and foremost: unwillingness to listen to an answer. It does you no harm to hear even a false answer as long as you apply due skepticism. This goes for people of all walks, opinions and beliefs.

Second, you should be criticized if you think disproving natural selection (or any attempts to do so) would be evidence for God. That is a non-sequitur. If natural selection was disproven tomorrow, all that proves is that we don't know how we got the diversity of life we see around us.

God is not the null hypothesis. You have to provide evidence to support the existence of God, not just shoot down any "competing" ideas.

I just jumped around the video a bit, but my favorite part was the idea that there existed giraffes with their long necks, who then later had to evolve a solution to having a long neck (or else they'd die, and dead animals can't evolve). That's just, uh, not how that works. And, in this case, the adaptation isn't even that crazy - plenty of animals have valves in their circulatory system, as they're handy even in much smaller creatures. This is just the kind of adaptation that's easy to visualize as a slow progression, the opposite of the kind of spectacular adaptations you'd expect them to bring up.

In general, I think it's dishonest to make a video like this without understanding the subject. And, if they do understand the subject, then they're hiding that fact pretty well and being (at most charitable) very disingenuous in how they're presenting information. I have no idea why people think this is OK - I suppose they must figure the ends (casting doubt on evolution) justify the means.

Why does it seem like these people are gaining traction? I love the irony that this guy is using facts derived from scientific research by scientists who relied on the evolutionary theory to debunk evolution.

Just for interests sake, here's a very young Richard Dawkins already on the sift explaining the (apparent) bombardier beetle conundrum.

http://videosift.com/video/Dawkins-on-the-Evolution-of-the-Bombardier-Beetle

You can't fix stupid.

Tide comes in tide goes out. You can't explain that. Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

Theory of Evolution by itself is wrong

Theory of Creationism by itself is wrong


But most non fanatical christians like myself believe both.


big bang or intelligent spark that kicked it all off, then left alone to evolve and grow to our full potentials.

Creation + Evolution is 2 theories combined that makes better sense for me and luckily the private school my children go to are taught that as well. They dont teach one or the other they teach a combined possibility that many scientists also can agree on the "theory". They the big bang started it all, and that big bang occured somehow.

Anyhow I'm not fanatical and I don't care what religious nuts believe or atheist believe,

belief is a personal and family thing and should stay that way, So people who believe otherwise I respect the privacy of their beliefs as well as this I have wrote is my own families private belief.

>> ^cito:

Theory of Evolution by itself is wrong
Theory of Creationism by itself is wrong

But most non fanatical christians like myself believe both.

big bang or intelligent spark that kicked it all off, then left alone to evolve and grow to our full potentials.
Creation + Evolution is 2 theories combined that makes better sense for me and luckily the private school my children go to are taught that as well. They dont teach one or the other they teach a combined possibility that many scientists also can agree on the "theory". They the big bang started it all, and that big bang occured somehow.
Anyhow I'm not fanatical and I don't care what religious nuts believe or atheist believe,
belief is a personal and family thing and should stay that way, So people who believe otherwise I respect the privacy of their beliefs as well as this I have wrote is my own families private belief.


I disagree that it's ok to indoctrinate children, which is what you're suggesting should be happening when you talk about "family beliefs".

Mind numbing stupidity.
I started making a list of stupid stuff he says: writers cramp after 1:45.

Well you're wrong on all counts. The theory of evolution is completely incompatible with scripture, and redemptive history. If evolution is correct then Jesus Christ died for no reason. Death entered into the world through the sin of Adam . If death was already present in the world before Adam and Eve, then there was no fall or original sin. If that is true, the problem of sin isn't related to the law and thus Jesus has nothing to save us from.

It is "non-fanatical" Christians like you who are lukewarm and don't understand your own faith. It's not a personal thing; you are commanded by God to preach the gospel. Instead you're on here trying to get the praise of men by denigrating your brothers in Christ who do the will of God.

John 14:15
"If you love me, you will obey what I command."


>> ^cito:
Theory of Evolution by itself is wrong
Theory of Creationism by itself is wrong
But most non fanatical christians like myself believe both.
big bang or intelligent spark that kicked it all off, then left alone to evolve and grow to our full potentials.
Creation + Evolution is 2 theories combined that makes better sense for me and luckily the private school my children go to are taught that as well. They dont teach one or the other they teach a combined possibility that many scientists also can agree on the "theory". They the big bang started it all, and that big bang occured somehow.
Anyhow I'm not fanatical and I don't care what religious nuts believe or atheist believe,
belief is a personal and family thing and should stay that way, So people who believe otherwise I respect the privacy of their beliefs as well as this I have wrote is my own families private belief.

Well, the video proved one thing: I can laugh and cry at the same time.

Well you're wrong on all counts. The theory of evolution is completely incompatible with scripture, and redemptive history.


I fully agree with shinyblurry here. When you combine Christian creationism and evolution in this way, it's not like you get the best of both worlds or something - you just get an inconsistent mess.

I mean, if you believe in the Christian God - if you've already accepted that - then why not go all the way and believe the Bible about how creation happened? And if you doubt, if you don't believe the Bible is true or that creation happened the way the Bible says (or whatever), then you need to re-inspect your overall beliefs because the Christian God doesn't accept half believers.

Shinyblurry's bible reference to being "lukewarm" (Revelations 3:16, I assume, is what he was hinting at) is very apropos: "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." The Bible spends a lot of time here and elsewhere explaining that you can't have it both ways. Indeed, I think He's probably more lenient on people who don't believe at all (just my opinion).

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>> ^jmzero:

my favorite part was the idea that there existed giraffes with their long necks, who then later had to evolve a solution to having a long neck

I like that they chose the giraffe as evidence of intelligent design because of this:

http://videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-Demonstrates-Laryngeal-Nerve-of-the-Giraffe

More generally, I think it's funny that they show all these complicated, inefficient, impractical biological systems and then claim that these crappy designs must have been God's doing. You'd think an omniscient, omnipotent God could have done a better job than your average Chrysler engineer.

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"In all my years-8 years-of scientific education, I had never had a single professor tell me about an assumption."

-Where did you go to school, Glen Beck University? I feel for your dental patients.

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