How to Handle the Police When You're Videotaping

Simple.
AeroMechanicalsays...

The way to handle the police is to be polite, respectful of their authority, but while firmly (but calmly) claiming and exercising your rights. Of course, this only works on the 75-odd% of police who are reasonable people. The other 25% are harder to deal with, but being argumentative, belligerent and disrespectful ("fuck you") won't get you anywhere.

If you've ever worked customer service, you probably know the drill: The more angry and unreasonable the customer gets, the more calm and reasonable you become (I think of it as my Jeeves-the-butler routine). Not always, of course, but usually it gets through to them eventually that they are the ones being dicks.

siftbotsays...

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Januarisays...

The thing that really bothers me about this, is that i suspect the police were trying to keep these pathetic ghouls from filming something gruesome... oh forbid the 'man' tries to give an accident victim a little dignity... What a joke.

chingalerasays...

up voted for all the times I have personally told cops to go fuck themselves. Some reacted as expected or were otherwise prone without my attitude, and the others took it very well....and those that did not, simply, dicks.

The ones that carried-out their duties as human beings are the ones who most likely are no longer police officers. These cunts that are cops forever??....They're the problem, and the exception is no where near the rule.
If one has the dick costume at one's disposal worn with limited use and in times of necessity, one can so can spot the douche who's boudoir contains but the one suit.-

Takes one to know one, explained.

If an exchange with a cop has no out but that of arrest or jail, he's gonna get the full-on, "Question why I took this job and my own humanity and manhood" speech on the way downtown, the fucking piece of shit.
Saints and criminals, sinners and cops, some nay MOST cops, don't deserve the responsibility-

VoodooVsays...

Yeah ching, you're simply not a good person.

I'm not excusing their failings. spaghetti monster knows they have a lot of them, but the fact of the matter is that we *need* the police and your paranoid rage towards cops good or bad simply doesn't help things. Be part of the solution, not the problem. and yelling at them really isn't helping anything. You've got a legitimate complaint that cops have a corruptsion or incompetence problem....well work to fix it then instead of whining like a spoiled brat.

chingalerasays...

yeah well, re-visit this post in the a.m.during coffee and I'll address your particular delusional frame of reference regarding my character then? Perhaps to sum me up as a person (good, bad,or otherwise) on the basis of a comment is just a bit harsh??

I'll be the judge of that then, eh?

VoodooVsaid:

Yeah ching, you're simply not a good person.

I'm not excusing their failings. spaghetti monster knows they have a lot of them, but the fact of the matter is that we *need* the police and your paranoid rage towards cops good or bad simply doesn't help things. Be part of the solution, not the problem. and yelling at them really isn't helping anything. You've got a legitimate complaint that cops have a corruptsion or incompetence problem....well work to fix it then instead of whining like a spoiled brat.

chingalerasays...

Good morning.....So VoodooV, simply not a good person...

One might imagine that you've mistaken paranoid rage for a genuine concern for the people who must suffer the damaged, soon beyond-repair law-enforcement establishment in the U.S. While I can't vouch for many municipalities, I have dealt with law enforcement in multiple states since I was old enough to drive a car.
Texas has an inordinate amount of assholes in law enforcement, which has sullied or otherwise affected my opinion of peace officers (that term an oxi-moron for millions of people who have had to deal with profiling, unprovoked aggression, and general douche-baggery from the hind-brained, alpha-or-wannabe-alpha victims of abuse and racism who choose a career in "law enforcement".

We have several versions of cops here, Sheriffs, constables, state troopers, city police, game wardens, etc., all with their privilege and jurisdictions, all with varying levels of professionalism and personalities some of which are synonymous with their particular group.
I maintain, that In ALL of these branches of law enforcement due to corruption and abuse of power as the rule for over 50 years combined with the systematic granting of more and more powers to state over individual rights that the SYSTEM is inherently corrupt and anti-human rights. I have come to this conclusion in my dealings with them personally and by paying attention to the fucking world without blinders and outside of the insular framework of my own perception of how i would LIKE the world to be.

What is your personal experience in dealing with law enforcement robots? Where do you live? What is your station in life economically, socially. Are you Caucasian or a minority? All these questions beg an answer because I suppose that your exposure to the world outside of the comfort of your CONSTRUCT, is causing this consternation and judgement vomited-forth in your last comment, and I would hate to have some skewed opinion of you based on your reaction to mine on issues that have EVERYTHING to do with human rights, justice, blah blah blah, all the shit that's important to people like us, schmoes slaving for paper-tickets to buy more play-time in the world created while you were fast-fucking asleep.

Fix it instead of whining like a spoiled brat??
Well sir, when you live in a country with the majority of peeps fast-asleep with their heads up movie-stars and basketball-player's asses whose political system is a fucking joke and her government co-opted by corporate and security interests then civil disobedience or heaven-forbid, UNCIVIL should the situation necessitate is about the only reasonable, actionable, effective solution for me.
Malcolm X was right, rich, sociopathic white people suck donkey balls and run the whole fucking show.

Would you like to have a discussion on the state of the Prison system in the United States? Hand-in-hand with the men in blue are the men in brown who would, that the current model be expanded and improved upon....It's broken and you have an opinion,??

Please enlighten us all-

Jerykksays...

So you assume that all cops are corrupt and incompetent based almost entirely on anecdotal evidence. That's reasonable.

Laws only have meaning when they are actually enforced. If cops were not around, there would effectively be no law and nothing to deter people from doing whatever they want, regardless of the impact their actions have on others. There are certainly bad cops out there but the majority of cops do their jobs responsibly. Like them or not, society is better with cops around.

Being rude and belligerent to someone just because they're a cop is stupid. You shouldn't be rude and belligerent to anyone just because of their occupation. It accomplishes nothing aside from stroking your ego by "standing up to the man."

Gregorioftsays...

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AeroMechanicalsaid:

The way to handle the police is to be polite, respectful of their authority, but while firmly (but calmly) claiming and exercising your rights. Of course, this only works on the 75-odd% of police who are reasonable people. The other 25% are harder to deal with, but being argumentative, belligerent and disrespectful ("fuck you") won't get you anywhere.

If you've ever worked customer service, you probably know the drill: The more angry and unreasonable the customer gets, the more calm and reasonable you become (I think of it as my Jeeves-the-butler routine). Not always, of course, but usually it gets through to them eventually that they are the ones being dicks.

draak13says...

@chingalera

I'm impressed with your ability to craft an elegant response when you choose to. However, many of your arguments can be cast on yourself in the exact same way. From your argument that, 'it depends on your experience,' perhaps you live in an armpit down in texas where all the police treat everyone terribly, and you can certainly go online and find examples from all over the world which self-support your idea that all law enforcement is bad. However, I have lived in a college town area in the midwest all of my life, and I have found the local law enforcement to be extremely helpful and amicable. Most of my friends are not white, and I do hear an occasional bad story, though on the whole, we have far more good stories than bad.

We indeed have our own constructs, but your assessment that 'all law enforcement is corrupt' is an example of everything you hate about law enforcement which you exhibit yourself. When I first read your statement, '...profiling, unprovoked aggression, and general douche-baggery from the hind-brained, alpha-or-wannabe-alpha victims of abuse and racism...' I was legitimately confused about whether you were talking about those in law enforcement or not. Consider your opening statement, 'up voted for all the times I have personally told cops to go fuck themselves. Some reacted as expected or were otherwise prone without my attitude, and the others took it very well....and those that did not, simply, dicks,' You seem to be exhibiting all of the behaviors that you personally detest, and seem to be describing it as a social experiment. You don't have to stretch the imagination too far to see why people are thinking of you as 'whiny' or 'not a good person.' Unless your goal is to troll for responses so that you can blow off your canon about law enforcement corruption, don't be surprised when people continue to think lowly of you.

st0nedeyesays...

So it's Christmas eve, I'm having dinner with my parents in rural Colorado, they also have some of their friends and neighbors over, including a nearby neighbor who's a local sheriff, nice guy, I know him ok. Everybody's having a good time, laughing and telling stories.
He tells us this hilarious story about when he got pissed off and choked and beat a sixteen year old for skateboarding on the sidewalk. Killed the mood.

Cops are fucked up. Even good cops are fucked up.

messengersays...

"We need the police." ≠ "Police can act as they wish at all times."

"We need the police." ≠ "We must excuse abusive police behaviour."

"We need the police." ≠ "The most important thing is that we take responsibility for our role in causing police to abuse their authority."

"We need the police." ≠ "We must show the police more respect than they show us."

"We need the police." ≠ "We must bend over if they get randy."

Sure we need police, but we need garbage men, postal workers and transit fare collectors too, and I don't think you would extend this tolerance of abuse towards them. Why the special pleading for the police?

VoodooVsaid:

Yeah ching, you're simply not a good person.

I'm not excusing their failings. spaghetti monster knows they have a lot of them, but the fact of the matter is that we *need* the police and your paranoid rage towards cops good or bad simply doesn't help things. Be part of the solution, not the problem. and yelling at them really isn't helping anything. You've got a legitimate complaint that cops have a corruptsion or incompetence problem....well work to fix it then instead of whining like a spoiled brat.

VoodooVsays...

Did you just ignore the first sentence of my 2nd paragraph or what?

Do you advocate telling police to "fuck off?" Does that improve things or make things worse? How about calling them pigs? Help? or make it worse?

Corruption and Incompetence usually starts at the top...not the bottom. so please educate me on how being belligerent towards cops fixes corruption and incompetence?

Start demanding more from your elected officials. stop whining about the symptoms and start fixing the actual problem.

messengersaid:

"We need the police." ≠ "Police can act as they wish at all times."

"We need the police." ≠ "We must excuse abusive police behaviour."

"We need the police." ≠ "The most important thing is that we take responsibility for our role in causing police to abuse their authority."

"We need the police." ≠ "We must show the police more respect than they show us."

"We need the police." ≠ "We must bend over if they get randy."

Sure we need police, but we need garbage men, postal workers and transit fare collectors too, and I don't think you would extend this tolerance of abuse towards them. Why the special pleading for the police?

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