Ugh, lame. Indy 4 wasn't THAT bad. It certainly wasn't as good as any of the others, and had a few really dumb moments, but it was entertaining.
http://videosift.com/video/CineMassacre-The-Top-10-Sequels-That-A
ren-t-As-Bad. The bit with Indy 4 in this pretty much sums up my feelings.

If you ignore the fridge scene and the monkey scene Indy 4 is a tolerable film. Shia Lebouf is no worse than Shortround.

>> ^Ti_Moth:

If you ignore the fridge scene and the monkey scene Indy 4 is a tolerable film. Shia Lebouf is no worse than Shortround.


Still bad without them! And there seems to be Indy 5 coming.

As Shia says, "NO NO NO NO NO NO..."

The CGI monkeys, the CGI ants, the CGI prairie dogs, the CGI warehouse, the CGI alien... in fact, every single scene in the entire movie with CGI, THE SPACE BETWEEN SPACES... And you know, the fridge might've actually been okay if it didn't involve it getting hurled thousands of feet, and it was some distance from the heart of the blast to begin with.

Indiana Jones 4 was terrible. Before it I thought 3 was kind of weak (serious characters from the previous films acting like goofballs).. but it's a work of art compared to 4.

>> ^Drax:
I thought 3 was kind of weak


Your argument is invalid, even without the assistance of a cat pushing a watermelon out of a lake

Shia actually did essentially apologize, or at least accept blame, for his part in making the movie suck.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/05/shia-labeouf-wall-street-2-indiana-jones-steven-spielberg.html

I'll give it that it was better than the Star Wars prequels... but that ain't sayin' much, my friends.

I thought Indy 4 was almost there....
a) The two best Indy movies (1 & 3) had their roots in Biblical myths, this made them feel sort of 'legit', a nice sort of 'what if' these stories were true. Temple of Doom lacked this with him not searching for anything really, just stumbling across the Thuggees. The crystal skulls could have been a pretty good myth to work with, but there wasn't enough decoding scripture or writings or anything really to _do_ with the myth... I think that's where the two weak films initially fail, they aren't a good 'search for a lost item' story.

b) Far too much CGI, the chase through the jungle, while having some nice action and set pieces, just feels like a cgi scene, doesn't feel based in reality.

c) Too much lame humour. It's where Lucas failed a lot with the Star Wars prequels too... resorting to fart jokes and bad slapstick when the originals had a semblance of subtlety to them.

d) The end... just... a spaceship... really? The first one, we have ghosts... that's good, honest, old school movies. The second has some heart ripping and glowing stones, the third has life giving/sapping cups... but none of them have alien creatures coming to life and a space ship taking off... just doesn't work. That really should have been played down a lot, lot more. Some sort of alien power source that activated and made a whole lot of ancient machinery come to life would have been more in keeping.

I really enjoyed the motorcycle chase, I like Shia, I think he does well with whatever he's given. I think Harrison is still excellent in the role, there were some great action pieces. It's just really annoying to see a film get so close... so close and miss out due to what feels like just not having one more person look over the script and say 'Hey guys... you're kinda missing a few key "Indy" things here... and a few of these scenes are really very hokey'

But yeah, not as bad as some would make it out to be.

Oh, and that was a really shit 'how it should have ended'.

Didn't have any funny 'ending' at all, really crap.