"Speaking to my emotions I don't mind giving child rapists a long drop from a short rope, but I wonder if there could be ramifications of allowing the death penalty...like encouraging rapists to just kill their victims."

. . . or violating the Constitution, not to mention eventually executing some 19-year-old for having a 17-year-old girlfriend.

>> ^nibiyabi:
"Speaking to my emotions I don't mind giving child rapists a long drop from a short rope, but I wonder if there could be ramifications of allowing the death penalty...like encouraging rapists to just kill their victims."
. . . or violating the Constitution, not to mention eventually executing some 19-year-old for having a 17-year-old girlfriend.


Taking it a bit far maybe? They are talking about the rape of children under 12 years, not some kid held back a grade who is still dating his high school sweetheart. Seems like a lot of places have "Romeo and Juliet" laws for that sort of thing. As far as the constitution, do you mean the cruel and unusual punishment thing? As in the punishment should fit the crime? One could argue that someone who rapes a 5 year old takes away their childhood and causes irreparable harm that can damage all future relationships...isn't that kind of cruel and unusual?

^I was unaware of the age limit -- sorry about that. Anyway, I think it's far more punishing (not to mention cost-effective) to let them rot in solitary for the rest of their pathetic lives.

>> ^nibiyabi:
^I was unaware of the age limit -- sorry about that. Anyway, I think it's far more punishing (not to mention cost-effective) to let them rot in solitary for the rest of their pathetic lives.


Sorry to be the devil to your advocate again, but I'm not sure I agree with the cost analysis. I suppose there are vaiables like life expectancy and what each state pays per prisoner per year, cost of executions, etc. Right now it looks like death row inmates average about 12 years before being executed, but you would think 12 years plus execution is cheaper than say 50 years.

Too bad we don't have any Australias left to ship them off to. Well, maybe someday California will turn into an island and we can make that a prison colony. Or we can take the George Carlin approach: http://www.videosift.com/video/George-Carlin-on-State-Prison-Farms

Sorry to be the devil to your advocate again, but I'm not sure I agree with the cost analysis. I suppose there are vaiables like life expectancy and what each state pays per prisoner per year, cost of executions, etc. Right now it looks like death row inmates average about 12 years before being executed, but you would think 12 years plus execution is cheaper than say 50 years.

You're forgetting the substantial cost to the state in legal and court fees during the appeals process, which is the reason it takes 12 years. Death penalty appeal decisions are much more cautious than other appeals, and death penalty cases are subject to a great deal more scrutiny. All this leads to costs not associated with other judgments. Not to mention the extra security, constant suicide watch, private meals, etc., which are required to hold death row prisoners in custody.

The result is that it actually is substantially more expensive to execute someone than to imprison them for life.

^ yeah, that we've heard many a time, and rarely if ever heard a convincing counter.

makes sense, as someone's life hangs in the balance.
no expense is spared, and no appeal can afford to go unheard.

better alternative: three hots and a cot, and let 'em rot.

and if anyone thinks that's insufficient punishment?
well, you've probably heard elsewhere, that pedophile sexual predators are pretty much on the 9th level of hell, in the clink.

oh, look. all of D block came to welcome you.
they heard there was a free all-you-can-eat salad bar.

Love the title. *politics

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What the fuck is the point of a suicide watch over someone who's on death row? Fuck 'em with a pineapple and let them end their disgusting life. It'll save us money.

Better yet, force em (rapists) to play in the BME pain olympics.

The only good argument against the death penalty for rapists is a possible increase in rape/homicides due to the increase in penalties. But that argument has lots of flaws.