Does "felony" not mean what I think it means? Why is this person not on charges of lying to congress?

As someone who has been a strong supporter of Obama in the past, I have to say he's really screwing the pooch here.

This is what's he's going to be remembered for.

"[Snowden] is seeking refuge in countries with abysmal human rights records"

... - and that should tell you all you really need to know.

So, what does it tell you?

I second @JustSaying here -- what exactly does it tell you? (Snowden seeking refuge in countries with abysmal human rights records)

What it tells me is that it is pretty pathetic that Snowden's best chances for freedom and a life outside of a concrete cell in Gitmo come from someplace like Venezuela, Ecuador, or Russia as compared to his home, the "land of the free" USA. I think it says much more about the current government and political environment in the US than it does about Snowden.

Given my take on it, I think it is laughable to accuse Snowden of hypocrisy. Aim that word at an entity that deserves it -- the country and government that labels itself:

*the "land of the free" (except for those that we lock up in indefinite detention without trial, those guilty of thoughtcrime, anyone trying to travel freely outside of the country or even from state to state, etc.),

*"home of the brave" (except for any vague threat of 'terrorists', in which case we ask everyone to panic and allow a friendly TSA officer to treat you like a sock puppet, in spite of the fact that you're 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist),

*originator of the bill of rights (unless the government has some tenuous and self serving reason to revoke any/all of your rights: Free speech? Hah! Free press? Hah! Unreasonable search and seizure? No such thing! Due process? Hah! Speedy and public trial? Hah! By a jury? Hah! Cruel and unusual punishments? Waterboarding and other 'enhanced interrogation techniques' don't count! The government laughs at the bill of rights and pisses on their grave.),

*bastion of democracy (except I don't remember voting on ANY of the shit that Snowden brought to our attention, and it seems that neither do any/most of our elected 'representatives' -Hah!), and

*home of the American dream (as long as your dream doesn't involve freedom from any of the myriad transgressions listed above).

Oh how my once proud nation has fallen.

Motherfuckers still believing we're morally superior to the rest of the shitty governments of the world. Recognize you're human. Recognize your country has committed crimes against humanity since it's inception. We killed many of the natives of this land, rounded them up, and said, "Here's where you can live."

People. American people, rather -- come on! How many human rights violations does it take before you recognize your own government as the real, honest to gosh hypocrites?

We don't need any more elite anything. Join the goddamn human race.

... that in actual fact once the patriotic propaganda disperses, the USA is truly shit.

You then went on to make my point for me but with more words. (so, thanks ;-).

Yeah, sorry -- I did an initial upvote on your first comment under the assumption of that interpretation, but then I realized that it could be the other way. Glad to get confirmation that my first interpretation was correct.

I definitely did get a bit longwinded before -- this whole mess tends to make me ... verbose.

How was it a once proud nation? We didn't want to save the Jews in the holocaust, we had to. We didn't want to give blacks freedom, it was kind of a labor dispute. We didn't ah hell, we just have sucked since we became a nation.

Ah, but you Milkman are a romantic!

I find it petty bickering between nations, nothing about Snowden or rights even. Putin is sticking it to Obama and vice versa. Think about who else Putin said fuck you to in spite of the US--adopted children.

You people are sure good at complaining...! ~(^_^~)