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im catholic, but i still lol'd at the "age of reason".

Bless Professor Carlin.

Of all Carlin´s sifts here this is possibly the best.
He is much better older and less cocainated...

I love the "age of reason"! I'm going to use that argument from now on!

'cause chicken's are decent people

"Meet Josh, the adopted crack baby of Jesus Christ."

Not trying to trample on Carlin's grave or anything, but... how can something 1 minute before exiting the womb and one minute after be the difference between having no rights and having rights? Life has to be defined at conception. Obviously, killing doctors is stupid extremism, but there's a good argument against abortion and it has nothing to do with "crazed religious people." It's kind of like saying free speech should be abolished because the KKK in the USA is a huge advocate of it. Guilt by association is a terrible debate tactic. I'm atheist and I happen to think it's murder out of inconvenience. Didn't want the kid? Why did you have unprotected sex?

Oh, and as for the argument that conservatives are the only warmongers and want to keep the children so they can send them to pointless wars and die, remind me: what party started the interventions in Korea, Vietnam, and Kosovo? Oh yeah, it was the Democrats. Too bad we have the long-term memory of drugged up lemmings in this country or we'd have a libertarian president by now.

By the way, I still love some of Carlin's rantings against religious stupidity and tax-exempt churches, but this one doesn't have much rationality behind it.

"how can something 1 minute before exiting the womb and one minute after be the difference between having no rights and having rights?"

Nine month old fetuses are never aborted, except in extreme cases where the mother's life is gravely threatened by the impending birth. Abortions occur in the first trimester.

"Life has to be defined at conception."

No it doesn't; not if by "life" you mean individuated living personhood; not in any legal or moral sense it doesn't. Why should it? Just because you say so? I'm not convinced.

Bye Bye, George-Somewhere, you and Thomas the tank engine's bitch are fucking to the strains of, "God we've heard it all before, could somebody PLEASE get this asshole some coal, and HAND ME A TISSUE GODDAMMIT??!!!"

1) We have opposable thumbs
2) We created fire
3) Cheesecake
4) The internet
4) Machines
5) Music
6) Language


You wanted six? there they are.

Ahh but chickens (and their eggs!) are delicious. That trumps pretty much anything else.

Representing extremist doctor murderers as your average garden variety pro-lifer is like saying a suicide bomber is a typical Muslim, or a KKK member is a typical Christian, or Lorena Bobbit is a typical wife. The ones who make the news in a group of people are almost never representative of the whole, and are likely despised by the majority of the group.

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Nine month old fetuses are never aborted, except in extreme cases where the mother's life is gravely threatened by the impending birth. Abortions occur in the first trimester.


Okay, so explain why a first trimester fetus has no rights and a third trimester fetus does. Because it "looks" more human at that point? This is where your argument that life can be defined at some subjective point between development stages is going to fall apart.

"Okay, so explain why a first trimester fetus has no rights and a third trimester fetus does. Because it "looks" more human at that point? This is where your argument that life can be defined at some subjective point between development stages is going to fall apart."

Hey! Good job of asking me a question and then being generous enough to answer it for me too!

If you return to my original post you will see that, in reply to your statement "Life has to be defined at conception" I replied:

"No it doesn't; not if by "life" you mean individuated living personhood; not in any legal or moral sense it doesn't. Why should it? Just because you say so? I'm not convinced."

So the question is both about personhood, in the legal sense, which is bestowed upon birth, and about humane medical treatment for unwanted pregnancies. Go and research what disinterested MEDICAL DOCTORS have written of the ethics around the question of abortion beyond the first trimester.

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