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"If we become a people who are willing to give up our money and our freedom in exchange for rhetoric and promises, then nothing can save us." -- Thomas Sowell

I enjoy listening to Alex but I still can't help but think that if the NWO he's talking about thinks that the planet is overindustrialized and overpopulated, then I agree with them.

It is.

>> ^Ryjkyj:
I enjoy listening to Alex but I still can't help but think that if the NWO he's talking about thinks that the planet is overindustrialized and overpopulated, then I agree with them.
It is.


compared to what?

Plenty of space on this planet. Not overpopulated. Maybe overpopulated in cities.

We haven't even started under the sea colonies yet, that would be rad! Think of all the great farm land down there.

Hahah Im still just 30 mins in. I like the ethics waver made me lol.

I always hate the way "regulation" is used by people. At times, what they mean is fraud prevention, which should be the role of government. But other times it is talking about something else entirely, it is state control of how business is done...not fraud prevention. We need 2 different words here but I am at a loss as to what they would be.

prisonplanet's review pretty much said all that needed to be said about this in my opinion:

The film exposes the agenda that Obama was put in place to accomplish, a world government allied with a bank of the world run by globalist eugenicists hell-bent on destroying America’s first world status and replacing it with a hollow shell of tyranny.


If that's your rallying call the movie is for you. Groupthink powers, activate!

This conversation is being monitored for excessive carbon emissions, best not to ad hominem in vain unless you have spare carbon certificates...papers please.

Skip forward to the carbon police training video at 2:04...funny stuff, and there is some HOLY POO stuff at 2:08.

The desperate plea at 2:10 is what I'm talking about!

>> ^bcglorf

You don't have to necessarily buy into any of this to view it, or even enjoy it. For some these videos and theories are simply entertaining. There may be some truth, but that's for you to discern - and it might be worthwhile. I don't deny that those truths are often buried by the heavy sensationalism, although one who agrees with such methods might say that's a good way to get people to "wake up." Give it a watch, see for yourself.

man the truth is so ugly and warty

Surprising that NetRunner and dystopiansocialismtoday haven't voted this video up yet. I guess they haven't seen it yet.

1. Disagree with Alex Jones, he's not going to save us from a conspiracy, as the conspiracy doesn't have a list of members. More like a book written long ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Conspiracy

The problem is people are willing to do anything to preserve their wealth and power. Wreck a constitution, they'd love to. Own the media, of course they will. Plunder the assets of the innocent, all in a day's work.

So I want to say this Destruction of our sovereignty isn't anything new to us. Think of a western movie. There's an evil sheriff that is buying up all the land. At the climax of the movie you learn he's in league with the cattle rustlers, and he's ran off every last honest rancher.

Anyway, putting up a new world currency to protect the banks, isn't the culmination of a conspiracy, just the next step after deregulation allowed paper wealth to surge past any physical limitations. Deregulation has worked so well for them, now they have to move on to the next step- capital free of the limitations of the U.S. Dollar, which has been used as a worldwide tax for every nation that uses the dollar, but is now losing exactly that power.

But anyway, in full disclosure, I also believe that fluoridation is harmful, so i might be a cracked nut.

where is the second half (part 2)?

^Part two hasn't been released yet.

I tend to believe in the inherent evil of man, so ideas like this fit right in to my view of reality. It seems like this would be a natural progression of 'society'.

What gets me itchy is, if this is happening - what the heck are we going to do about it?

In the words of rage against the machine "We gotta take the power back!"

From lord of the rings

King Théoden "What can man do against such reckless hate"
Aragorn "Ride out and meet them head on!"

>> ^EndAll:
>> ^bcglorf
You don't have to necessarily buy into any of this to view it, or even enjoy it. For some these videos and theories are simply entertaining. There may be some truth, but that's for you to discern - and it might be worthwhile. I don't deny that those truths are often buried by the heavy sensationalism, although one who agrees with such methods might say that's a good way to get people to "wake up." Give it a watch, see for yourself.


The same could be said of FOX 'News', and frighteningly enough it's on average less biased than this. If you want the contrarian view there are infinitely better sources, this is just garbage that attempts to sway people based on their ignorance of the mountain of facts that are left out because they are inconvenient to the films world view.

>> ^Matthu:
I tend to believe in the inherent evil of man, so ideas like this fit right in to my view of reality. It seems like this would be a natural progression of 'society'.
What gets me itchy is, if this is happening - what the heck are we going to do about it?


I think I believe even more strongly in the inherent evil of man, and it's why the ideas in this video DON'T fit right into my view of reality. An overarching NWO and coordinated effort by some secret cabal of the most powerful people in all the world just doesn't make sense. The biggest reason being the inherent evil leads the members to destroy each other. Watch the rise of every historical tyrant in history. The two final steps to securing their power is killing all rival parties/powers, and then killing off all challengers within their own party ranks.
America's '2 party' system, while failing completely as an actual two party option, does at the least succeed in keeping the corruption of the greedy and the powerful pitted against one another and makes the better interest of the general public into a valuable asset/tool to the corrupt and powerful. A bad system without a doubt, but better than the alternatives that have been tried from time to time.

>> ^blankfist:
Surprising that NetRunner and dystopiansocialismtoday haven't voted this video up yet. I guess they haven't seen it yet.


1) These agents of leftist propaganda bullshit (is that redundant?) have no defense against facts;
Obammy == Bush == Antichrist (Might as well be). You get my point.

2) They are so fucking "ga ga" over Obammy, he could look BE Hitler (there is a likeness) and not cause any concern...maybe...

3) The issues regarding Cap and Trade need to be explained much more than making Al Gwhore lots of money.

4) Can someone explain why nancy piglosy reminds of the universal sign for choke?

>> ^bcglorf:
>> ^EndAll:
>> ^bcglorf
don't have to necessarily buy into any of this to view it, or even enjoy it. For some these videos and theories are simply entertaining. There may be some truth, but that's for you to discern - and it might be worthwhile. I don't deny that those truths are often buried by the heavy sensationalism, although one who agrees with such methods might say that's a good way to get people to "wake up." Give it a watch, see for yourself.

The same could be said of FOX 'News', and frighteningly enough it's on average less biased than this. If you want the contrarian view there are infinitely better sources, this is just garbage that attempts to sway people based on their ignorance of the mountain of facts that are left out because they are inconvenient to the films world view.

Ohhh...so THIS is garbage to pacify my ignorance. Should I feel better now? Or should I try to reap the truth, which you obviously already know, from this field of random plots?

This isn't ENTERTAINMENT; if you want that, go to the local theater. These are actual comments and events associated with the people who made the monitary decisions that you and Ihave to live by.


FYI, the Congress is supposed to regulate our money supply, not a PRIVATE (bank owned) organisation called the "Federal" Reserve.

Nor am I supposed to lulled into security by an administration who promises HOPE, Change and anything else they can find in my pocket.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
>> ^Ryjkyj:
I enjoy listening to Alex but I still can't help but think that if the NWO he's talking about thinks that the planet is overindustrialized and overpopulated, then I agree with them.
It is.

compared to what?


Compared to my own memory.

I don't live in a big overpopulated city... yet. But every day the places I used to love to walk get filled in more and more. All the places I used to play as a kid are either built over or torn down to build a more efficient people-containment structure. And it seems like the people that fill them want nothing but to have babies and ride jet skis at any cost.

I know it's selfish but that's the way I feel.

^ I see, but then you aren't talking about overpopulation, that is a more technical term. What you mean is overcrowding, and that is still avoidable (many rural areas left in the world). What isn't is the places the we knew and loved changing into something else. The world is a testimonial to change, earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, tectonic movement, asteroids becoming crashed into us...you can't stop change, even if it isn't something you like.

Of note, I watched an interesting video the other day (TED) on the Siberian frost melting down in east Russia, and as a result, massive tracts of farm-able land being reviled, like farm land the size of the US. Should be interesting to see what this phase of the earth with entail for humanity.

so THIS is garbage to pacify my ignorance.
Not to pacify it, but to feed and profit from it in some manner.

This isn't ENTERTAINMENT; if you want that, go to the local theater.
Nor is it Education, if you want that, go to the local Library or University.

FYI, the Congress is supposed to regulate our money supply, not a PRIVATE (bank owned) organisation called the "Federal" Reserve.
No, Congress actually agreed in 1913 that the Federal Reserve IS supposed to regulate your money(if your an American, anyways). You may not like that, but maybe you should educate yourself a little bit on basic economics and financial policy before leaping to the conclusion that some nutty far out conspiracy video has all the answers that've been missed by the last several generations of economists.

^Profit from it? I think what this video is trying to do is be what the media should be, a watch dog. Granted, this is chop full of sensationalism and glances over things that are important, but it is at least making an effort to look out for "the man" and serve the interests of "the little guy". It seems like people who call shenanigans now are attacked with "loon" or "conspiracy nut" kind of ad hominem attacks.

While it isn't formal education, it is at least something to break the cycle of thought one normally is exposed to. A break from status que thinking that you would get at...say your local library. Established educational academia has a vested interests to not look "cooky" as it could detract from their attendance pool. They have a vested interest in not deviating from what you would expect. Being edgy or insightful goes against established academia and it is why a lot of real revolutionary thought comes from outside the university system.

Even well educated people on economics don't have any transparency into the fed. It is only partly a government organization, the business conducted in them is not a matter of public record. Recent attempts to make it so have been blocked and that is what the video is pointing out in the first 50mins or so. That massive cronyism and misconduct was and still is being conducted to rob the people of their savings to benefit a very small number of firms that generate no wealth.

I don't see why you would find it odd that the rich would conspire with other rich to protect their wealth and power. The history on this; mercantilism, cartels, feudalism, oligopolies, is just to clear to ignore. I think this video did a good job in capturing where these potential men in black coats could be, and if they are, offer a very interesting perspective into possible goals and means to archive those goals. I love war gaming. What I mean is to take a situation and map it out to its ends. Most people get ridiculed when they do this out in open air, which is a shame.

http://www.overpopulation.org/
http://www.overpopulation.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpopulation
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337815,00.html
http://www.cosmosmith.com/human_population_crisis.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/09/25/overpopulation.overview/index.html
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/overpopulation/overpopulation.html
http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/countries-of-the-world/asia/china/chinas-one-child-policy/
http://www.planetpapers.com/Assets/6135.php
http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1998/7/98.07.02.x.html
http://www.galtoninstitute.org.uk/Newsletters/GINL9303/poverty.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Essay_on_the_Principle_of_Population
http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=174
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2haR-nJc9fU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCk508EaT6w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce-0iRrt66g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEosykOesE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znCdbq9ZE14&feature=related
http://www.population-awareness.net/newsScan.html

Pretty much exactly what I feel, GSF.

The "problem" of overpopulation is more a problem of economics, poverty, and pre-industrialization economies adapting. For instance, the population density of the Vatican is one of the highest in the world but there are none of the problems normally associated with overpopulation. Technology has always increased the ability for populations to be crammed into any given space (and usually increase standard of living at the same time). Trucking, shipping, flight, preservative, and refrigeration technologies have allowed for food to be shipped from any one place on the entire frapping planet to any other place.

The problems that India and China face are much more a result of poverty then any REAL limit for the habitat to support their population. There is no meaningful calculate-able limit for the population as far as I have been educated on. And limits I have heard don't take into consideration vertical farming, ocean farming, or newly emergent food technologies (like growing food in vats), or even more broadly that things can be moved from one area of high resource to another area (IE Japan has no oil but lots of oil based technology). With more than 70% of the world being ocean, I would think the potential for ocean bound farming technology would provide more food for us then we would ever have population to consume. There doesn't seem to be a limit in any of the links that you provided, just the real issue of poverty of adjusting economies from trial agrarian to industrialized.

EDIT: In other words, every single city in the world is "overpopulated" in the sense that they have no food production in them, they are completely reliant on outside sources for food and to a smaller extent water. However, this abuse of the word doesn't factor in the reality of the situation, it is an oversimplified model. The reality is that the amount of population this planet can support is an unknown value. Just using the total amount of current farm land would be naive to the emergent technologies in the field of food. Soon, all food could be grown in a labs. If that is the case, then the idea of there not being enough land is meaningless as we could cram them into skyscrapers pumping out tons of food for the world. The real problem is poverty...and that is a really tragic and unfortunate thing, and luckily one we can participate it doing something about.

Food can be grown in labs? Great... I feel better already.

And on rooftops, and in the ocean, and in multistory structures( some people were using storage containers stacked on each other, really brilliant), there is really a lot of innovation in this area. Overpopulation is mainly sensationalism at this point (IMO). The real problem is poverty. I actually like the idea of eating meat without slaughtering an animal.

Look, I'm all for experimenting with my food. But part of me would rather that we still grow some of it in dirt.

It doesn't seem like a lot to ask for people to slow down the rate that they pop out kids. I mean, if it's your priority to have 30 kids then I'm sure you're committed. But I don't see how you would consider it progress to just keep exponentially producing people for no reason.

I agree, and most of the new technologies revolve around growing food where normally it wouldn't be considered; like atop buildings, or in stacked greenhouses. Then again, I share the sentiment of not mass producing children, but I am not very paternal. Exponential growth of the human population might not happen forever, as I think the fertility rates are dropping very quickly over time (and exposure to plastics). Perhaps the problem will solve itself indirectly through the accidental sterilization of males.