nope....wouldn't be prudent-If you get a cute Nellie in there, it will distract the hetero-boys, what will all those female mannerisms and affectations....Oh but wait, not all gay dudes are effeminate, that's a common fallacy...... a majority maybe, but not all-The ones that would enlist though, you probably would not want to fuck with em', thick-skinned as they perhaps are.....What's wrong with don't ask, don't tell, or don't enlist??? Seems that anything else that could possibly help to keep branches off a family tree, would not be a wise choice for a domesticated primate, what wanted to keep breathing air.

The only reason this is true is because those in charge are too unsure/uncomfortable with their own sexuality to accept other people's sexuality without it shaking them "to the core". This is stupid, immature, and is being actively taught to the majority of children inside the country. A sad state of affairs indeed.

The thing that's WRONG with don't ask don't tell, as if it actually needed to be spelled out, is that number one PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK and number two this requires gays to either lie or tell the truth and be kicked out. The military is thus in the business of fostering deceit amongst its own soldiers, is this something you find compatible with the forthright and honest ethos that training in the armed forces is ostensibly intended to foster?

"a majority maybe"

Umm... nowhere close. Most gay people I know like guys, not guys acting like women. You just notice the latter more because they (obviously) are the group to jump in front of the cameras when possible.

oh, and "I don't mind if you're gay, as long as you act straight in public [the military]" has always been a horribly flawed policy. If they really want to implement this "don't tell" policy as it's "disruptive", they need to kick out every person that talks about their girlfriend at home. A gay man talking about his boyfriend will be kicked out, even though it's logically equivalent.

It's not like the homophobic religious-right is any stranger to hypocrisy, though.

cameras??? Lived around and in the midst, SF for years and everywhere else one can think of...no, thats' bullshit-most have some affectation-So why doesn't the armed forces just come out and state the obvious? They don't play by the same rules as yules, should they have to? What? Lets let gays into the military, welcome them with open arms, all the with-it countries are doing it....slow down boys, before ya' get yer panties in a bums rush knot.......thankfully, left to the defense of a country, are the heterosexual of the knuckle-draggers.....more of a stake in the species, don't ya think???

downvote, glounium, for using the story of Christ, as a reason to masturbate-(when originally posted, the embed was scenes from the "Last Temptation of Christ, forgive me if I knee-jerked without watching the post intended???)and codenazi, thought we we talking about gays in the military, not theys' taught by seminaries-What a great platform to launch a jab at the devout from....calling all instances of distaste for another's choice of sexuality, homophobia, is innane, and with regard to the military, majority moves as one, must to maintain discipline, so naturally, some folks don't fit-

what the hell are you talking about? the only video I ever embedded in this post is the one that is here now about the republican debate. I think I'll be fully ignoring your comments henceforth.

Pay no mind to the jebus~boy for his mind is closed and he does not know what the hell he is saying.

wow, choggie... your incoherent mumbling is way crazier than usual. A few more drinks than usual before posting or something?

/ignoring you along with gluonium...

What the hell, choggie?

Furthermore, I don't understand how these guys can say that the policy isn't aimed at one particular group. The first guy said:

"Every individual should be treated the same way. So, if there's homosexual behavior in the military that's disruptive, it should be dealt with. But if there's heterosexual behavior that's disruptive, then it should be dealt with."

But by "don't ask, don't tell", one is immediately kicked out for being gay. Apparently just BEING GAY is disruptive. What sort of heterosexual behavior would they consider disruptive, I wonder? Obviously just being straight is not disruptive.

What the hell?

I need a shower. Nothing deflects a question like greasy nationalism.

Doesn't anyone think that there might be a problem with rampant gay bashing in a club dominated by testosterone fueled, meat-neck, ultra-hetero, (and yes, often Christian) men that just want to kick ass and blow shit up? I do think that sucks ass that it's the case, but if gays were open about it, it could be deadly. That's fucked up to be sure, and I wish that weren't true, but isn't it really a distinct possibility? The Don't Ask Don't Tell policy is hypocritical as hell, and no one should have to lie about who they are, but until opinions change, in that setting, I'd be inclined to think that it might be in their best interest to lie. But no, they sure as hell shouldn't be kicked out if it comes out in the open!

Now I'm going to upvote to displace Choggie's down, then I'm going to go rub out a bukkake on Jesus's face.

don't drop the soap

Does being gay or lesbian affect a soldier's ability to fight and perform in the military? Choggie seems to argue so, but I will say in my experience, it doesn't. If some extremely flamboyant guy doesn't fit in because of his personality, it's a personality issue, one that will be quickly remedied by a short time in basic, it's not an issue with homosexuality.

Why be against gays serving openly in the military?

The debate is never about equal treatment but "special" treatment, just like Bitches and Blacks in uniform get now.

A Dim-o-crat prez already failed at making finooks legal in the Service, so don't go blaming the other side of the aisle. Moral nihilists get bitch-slapped by reality. Again.

it's so recrackulous. i love how the lgbt community is even an issue at all. well, i guess there goes my military career...i'll just go on an olivia cruise instead.

Special treatment... Lol. That old Repug clarion call was retired years ago here in Oregon, back when the OCA tried sell it in Ballot Measure 9. You need to brush up on your dogma. At least it used to be entertaining. Now it's just pathetic.

Clinton slinked away from his campaign promise when the heat got turned up on the issue, and he got "don't ask, don't tell" implemented as a compromise in 1993. Still, your attempt to shift the spotlight to Democrats is pretty transparent. Then again, entrenchment in the guise of wisdom tends to expose the blind faith of your ilk.

Your Elvis has left the building, QM. Best to just buy a t-shirt on the way out, and go home.

As I said the other day, QM was likely one of the kids who had to ride the short bus on the way to school. My guess is he licked the windows the entire way.

Oh, and if you can give me one example of a policy supported by the left that relies on moral nihilism, I'll give you a lolly.

well, that was a depressing clip. then again, makes me think of a certain bill hicks bit...

That's so retarded. But it is telling of how extreme the Republican party has gotten that it treats fringe issues like this as serious policy questions to ask it's candidates at a time where there are far bigger elephants in the room that no one dare mention.

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Adding video to channels (Equality, Gay) - requested by geo321.