stop it! you are putting too many pieces together. People like to deal with one piece of the puzzle at a time or the get headaches. In other words we may be too stupid of an specie to really make it.

It seems a valid solution could still be had with free market and liberty. A reinterpretation of property rights could be in order and liability for actions that disturb the health of persons. I don't believe in positive rights mind you. Like I don't think you have a right to fresh air, however, you do have a right form someone to pollute the air your breath in a way that might give you cancer. Enforcing these types of things would be a step for health and environment of all while maintaining a government of liberty's and freedom's.

It is the more abstract problems that will be harder to solve with laws and such. Hunting an animal to extinction doesn't necessarily hurt anyone directly. And I don't think you have a right to have some other animal exist for the sake of existing. So how do you deal with that? How do you setup a consistent system of liberty while also trying to maintain the planet in whatever small way we can?

I do think the answer lays more in education and personal responsibility than of legislation. There are plenty of things that are illegal that people still do, and in no small number either. Some corporations buck certain laws because they can afford the fines (in other words its more profitable to break the law than follow it). But, if we took it upon a public responsibility, not of law but of culture, I would wager you could effect change more rapidly and more effectively than any law could hope to do.

In other words, I think free markets and liberty have the best chance to solve the problem instead of the other way around. Consumers just have to put their money where their mouth is. If you don't like a company because of their environmental policies, then don't shop there. That will speak louder than any regulation.

Speaking of regulations, I am sure that large stores could afford better lobbies than you or I. What more, they could use what you intend for good for evil. Trying to push laws that aren't fair and only hurt their competitors pocket books. The move for legislation and regulation almost always ends up in this situation.

But movements of culture and the all mighty dollar speak loud, and decisively clear. If you, the company, do not meet the needs and wants of the consumer, then you will go out of business, period. The results resonate in the industry and business's would shape up, or ship out.

Practically speaking. If advocacy groups would target one company, the worst or easiest defender to shut down, and boycott (yall remember that word till the point they changed or went under, they would have much better results than trying to change all industries at the same time. It is much better to try and cut down one tree at a time than a whole forest (ouch, might be a bad analogy now that I think of it).

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if i were Dr. Suzuki i'd have bought a collection of high power rifles decades ago. his patience is incredible.

If we all had a fraction of that man's intelligence and vision, we might just be alright.

Any time somebody calls you a "tree hugger" take it as a compliment.

A mark of honor.

Dr. Suzuki made another excellent point: if the capitalist market is to be a success, it must be in a state of constant growth; the day it stops growing, it starts dying.

Nobody has yet figured out a way around that fatal flaw.

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I'm pretty sure that this is safe for work.


19:25. It's not terrible, but it does fit the NSFW criteria. Also, some people are bugged by gratuitous use of the word, "Hell," which he uses a bit.

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