...."Pissing the night away"....

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Guilty as charged!

This is one of the worst songs of its time. You know how sometimes you have one of those moments where you just realize that you're surrounded by brainless dipshits? This song at the height of its success was the biggest such moment I can recall.

^What a sad life you must have.

makes me proud to be an american

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^What a sad life you must have.


What can I say? I like to have a connection to the music I listen to. Just because I have higher standards doesn't make my life sad.

^HIGHER standards!? Or maybe just DIFFERENT standards? Wow, you're just SO sure that YOUR standards are THE standards that ALL OTHER standards must standardize themselves to YOUR standards. Talk about being full of yourself.

I don't care that you voted against this video. That's fine; everyone has their own tastes. But your smug, superior attitude is sickening. Are we all "brainless dipshits" to you here at VS, or merely just the 25 28 of us who voted for this video? Have you come here to save us from ourselves; to rescue us from our own substandard tastes? How kind of you to condescend to even talk to us philistines!

Show us the way, Standards Messiah!

Upvote for anarchistic 25-year-old band, ironically defined by one hit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumbawamba



This song was so popular, it becoming unpopular with the hipsters. Find the comic "Zits" which, sadly, I can recall to this day - the teenager throws his copy of the band's album out the window when he finds out his mom likes the song.

I think that's the crux of xxx's first comment - no kiss and make up, no reason to get heated over a drinking song.

Didn't even get through reading the article when writing the last comment - this tidbit from Wiki is so punk I love it: "General Motors paid Chumbawamba $100,000 to use the song "Pass It Along" for a Pontiac Vibe television advertisement in 2002. Chumbawamba gave the money to the anti-corporate activist groups Indymedia and CorpWatch[2]."

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^HIGHER standards!? Or maybe just DIFFERENT standards? Wow, you're just SO sure that YOUR standards are THE standards that ALL OTHER standards must standardize themselves to YOUR standards. Talk about being full of yourself.
I don't care that you voted against this video. That's fine; everyone has their own tastes. But your smug, superior attitude is sickening. Are we all "brainless dipshits" to you here at VS, or merely just the 25 of us who voted for this video? Have you come here to save us from ourselves; to rescue us from our own substandard tastes? How kind of you to condescend to even talk to us philistines!
Show us the way, Standards Messiah!


In this particular case, HIGHER. This has nothing to do with how I perceive myself so you'll have to find something else to be offended by. I simply expect more from music than a beat and 5-6 sentences repeated over and over.

This song is about drinking and being drunk. The music is mediocre at best. No depth, emotion, talent or creativity whatsoever. Many people are happy with a beat and some words they can sing along with, whether they mean anything or not; the popularity of this song proves that. I expect more.

If you fall into that category, that's fine. The "brainless dipshits" comment was referring to all the people proclaiming this "such a great song!" back in the day. It's not. It's cookie-cutter pop drivel that they play over and over on the radio stations you hear in the office.

^Can't wait for your new holy book to come out, Standards Messiah. The Apocalypse of Brainless Dipshittery should be a frightful page-turner. Keep me posted on its release date. I'll try to schedule my toilet paper purchases accordingly.

I wasn't going to upvote this, but I am going to do so just because I too find offense in overcast's comments... You don't have any guilty pleasures that are not high art?

I love 'good quality' music as much, if not moreso than the next person (See my soon to die sift as an example), but that doesn't preclude me from being able to enjoy this mindless song for what it is... a catchy song that can be great to sing along with a bunch of mates when you've had a few too many.

Am I sick of it now? Yes... did I enjoy it at the time? Yes... do I look down on anyone who likes it? No.

Do I lament the vast majority of drivel that's on top 100 these days? Yes

Do I preach my musical taste upon those who like said drivel? I try not to, as I know I've enjoyed some pretty abysmal songs in my day, and continue to... there's no accounting for taste. I enjoy some songs in spite of myself...

But what I hate most are musical snobs, who won't even LET themselves enjoy a song, even if they secretly DO like it, just because it's doesn't have the cred it should. All the while making snide remarks about anyone who dares to like any music that can be considered popular.

So, yeah... upvote for me against musical snobs, take your judgmental attitude and put it away with your collection of obscure albums by artists who you will scorn if they ever get popular because it's not cool to like them anymore.

I specifically said I don't have any issue with people who like this song, so I'm starting to think you all just enjoy being offended and/or arguing. Spoco, I give you credit for making a meaningful statement in your response. Unfortunately you've joined in with the squirrel, painting a false representation of me with your own brush and then blaming me for what it looks like.

I don't listen to much obscure music, especially these days. Even back in my teens, most of my favorite music was known artists: Stabbing Westward, God Lives Underwater, NIN, Fiona Apple, Live... None of them were exactly underground 10 years ago. I've never been one of those drones who turn against a band when they become popular.

To illustrate another point, I'll use the Damien Rice video just mentioned above. I just watched it. I didn't like it. It's in no way bad; it's just not my thing. I can respect it even though I don't like it because it's still obvious talent. He can sing, write and play. He has put that extra something into his work... that extra something that makes him an artist rather than an ordinary attention whore.

Chewbakawaka doesn't fit that definition. There's a dozen people in the band and apparently not one of them can write a song or music or play an instrument.

Do I have "guilty pleasures"? Probably, but I don't claim they are anything but. People keep ignoring me when I say that I'm criticizing the people who don't admit or recognize this is a stupid, meaningless song whether they enjoy it or not. I've said previously that if you just aren't that picky and/or just enjoy a dumb party song, I hold no judgment. I don't really get you, but whatever. If you're one of the many people I've met, including several of my friends, who think this is a great song, then I think there's something wrong with you or something missing from your life.

On a quick side note, several people seem to have missed the fact that this site is all about critique and passing judgment. This is the wrong place to be if you have a tantrum every time someone criticizes you or your taste.

^Voting down a song is fine, even saying something like "This song sucks" is fine. But calling people who are all enjoying a song that you don't like "brainless dipshits" is NOT fine, IMHO.

Of all the songs I really enjoy I don't think this a GREAT one, but I do think it's a REALLY FUN song, especially if you're drunk and singing along with your friends. However, if someone truly does believe this is a great song, so what? You say a person like this, just because he or she thinks this is an awesome song, is damaged goods?! Their lives are missing something?! I disagree wholeheartedly.

I'm not having a tantrum; I'm just pointing out that you are a music snob. I take exception to labeling persons as "brainless dipshits" because they happen to like one song. Am I supposed to take that lying down and say "Yeah, I guess I really am a brainless dipshit", or am I allowed a countering statement?

If you don't like your offensive critiques being critiqued, then don't offer them.

Upvote for same reason as spoco!

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^Voting down a song is fine, even saying something like "This song sucks" is fine. But calling people who are all enjoying a song that you don't like "brainless dipshits" is NOT fine, IMHO.
Of all the songs I really enjoy I don't think this a GREAT one, but I do think it's a REALLY FUN song, especially if you're drunk and singing along with your friends. However, if someone truly does believe this is a great song, so what? You say a person like this, just because he or she thinks this is an awesome song, is damaged goods?! Their lives are missing something?! I disagree wholeheartedly.
I'm not having a tantrum; I'm just pointing out that you are a music snob. I take exception to labeling persons as "brainless dipshits" because they happen to like one song. Am I supposed to take that lying down and say "Yeah, I guess I really am a brainless dipshit", or am I allowed a countering statement?
If you don't like your offensive critiques being critiqued, then don't offer them.


I'm one of the few people I know who asks for critique on a regular basis. I'm always looking to improve myself. Up until the comment quoted here, you haven't offered any critique. Spoco did, and I recognized him for it. I may not agree with him, but at least he gave me something I could think on. All you did was tell me I had a sad life because I don't enjoy shit music. Curious, did you tell dag and bamdrew how revolting they are for agreeing with me?

I've also said 3x now that I'm not criticizing people such as yourself who think this is a "really fun song". I have not labeled anyone a "brainless dipshit" for liking this song. You have built a straw man here; falsely representing my statements, playing the victim of a comment that never had anything to do with you.

It seems nobody is reading my half of this discussion which is a bit frustrating. Looking back, I can see the initial misunderstanding, but almost everything said since then has been based on what you claim I think or feel rather than what I've said I think or feel. You're all completely welcome to disagree with me. Quantumushroom I'm not, but it's no rare occurrence that my opinion clashes with the majority. It would be far more productive, however, if everyone based their understanding of my statements on my statements rather than what you say I said.

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>> ^kronosposeidon:
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Oh but... oh but...

xxovercastxx:
"I have not labeled anyone a "brainless dipshit" for liking this song. "
And
I specifically said I don't have any issue with people who like this song, so I'm starting to think you all just enjoy being offended and/or arguing.

Except that your original comment was You know how sometimes you have one of those moments where you just realize that you're surrounded by brainless dipshits? This song at the height of its success was the biggest such moment I can recall.

That's what sent us all off... You did label those who enjoy it as brainless dipshits via that comment, and that's what gave us cause for some 'discussion'.

Later you honed that comment to be more along the lines of that you hate people who suggest that this is a great song, which I tend to agree with, but at the same time if said people also enjoyed a wide range of music with integrity and artistic value as well, are they not allowed to think a simplistic, catchy tune is also great?

Still, I'll join in the lament of really great music not being appreciated by the masses, but enjoy listening to what I enjoy.

And to illustrate the point that I have no claim to 'great taste'... here is some of the artists on high rotation in my media player:
The Beatles, Metallica, VAST, The Waifs, Live, The Whitlams, Bryan Adams, Enigma, Chris Isaak, Barenaked Ladies, The Tea Party, David Gray, Green Day, Era, Bernard Fanning, Dave Matthews Band, Marcy Playground, Regina Spektor, INXS, Vivaldi, Pink, Missy Higgins, Meat Loaf, The Wallflowers.

See... in that small sample of what I enjoy I'm sure most people would have some that they'd go 'Nice' to, some they'd go 'Oh my god, how embarrassing', some they go 'Who?' and so on... everyone has different tastes, different RANGE of tastes. I enjoy many, many other artists than those few I just grabbed off my media player, and within them there are sure to be more cringe worthy artists, more 'who's, more 'nice'... let everyone enjoy the full range of what they enjoy.

>> ^spoco2:
That's what sent us all off... You did label those who enjoy it as brainless dipshits via that comment, and that's what gave us cause for some 'discussion'.
Later you honed that comment to be more along the lines of that you hate people who suggest that this is a great song, which I tend to agree with, but at the same time if said people also enjoyed a wide range of music with integrity and artistic value as well, are they not allowed to think a simplistic, catchy tune is also great?

Part of the problem was that I never thought anyone would pay serious attention to my initial comment, so I didn't spend the time editing or clarifying it that I normally might.

Thank you for at least acknowledging my follow-up statements, though I must object to the word "hate". I don't hate anyone for their love of this or any other song. If you think this song is a finely crafted piece of art, as so many people I've met seem to, then I think you need to reevaluate the definitions of "fine", "craft" and "art", and suspect you need to be exposed to more.

Kronos, for the record, this was never an argument and I harbor no hostility. Let's call it a "heated discussion" and move on.

Hugs and kisses,
Carl

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