This is really old, but my search here didn't turn it up as being posted here before. I posted it for a member in another comments thread who wanted to see an example of O'Reilly at his worst. There are lots of other examples on YouTube. Not meant to start a flame-war or anything. Purely informational. :-) Lot's of Limbaugh stuff there too.

A country is doomed when it starts drawing lines between it's people.

Believe it or not, there are people in this world who think that every bad thing that happens is the result of something they did wrong and will not take any action against the actual perpetrators. And he said it himself, he did not want to go after the Taliban even though they were allowing terrorist training in their country.

The reason why Islamofacists believe they will eventually bring this country down to its knees is because of people like this; who will always be convinced that America is the reason why bad things happen.

The level of White Guilt and self-loathing in this country is simply astounding.

"The level of White Guilt and self-loathing in this country is simply astounding."

"White Guilt"? Racism at it's most shameless.

It's comforting to note that this level of fearful brainwashed dronelike xenophobic ignorance is becoming more and more reassuringly small.

O'Reilly makes my right foot tingle, it seems to inexorably be drawn to his tiny, shrivelled testicles.

""White Guilt"? Racism at it's most shameless."

You don't even know what it is.

You know what I'd like to see? O'Reilly interviewing Jiminy Glick. Or Jiminy Glick interviewing O'Reilly. Either way.

You read minds too? Quite the intellectual repertoire you have there, Wumpus.

O.K. Then tell me. Instead of just being condescending, and calling me names let's see you make an actual intellectual point.

I'm sorry if you feel you're being condescended to.

You're entitled to your opinions and I promise to try my best to respect them in future.

"And he said it himself, he did not want to go after the Taliban even though they were allowing terrorist training in their country."


His point being that the extremist groups in Afghanistan are there because the US government, under earlier administrations, thought it was a great idea to train and fund the Taliban militants in order to keep the Soviet Union from assimilating the country. The Taliban was then able to overthrow the Afghanistan democratic government, and let all their terrorist friends come in and hang out.

So, he's saying that turning around and bombing Afghanistan to hell because of a problem we created was, to an extent, missing the point. One root cause was our government's foreign policy of playing both sides; supporting extremist Muslims when it wanted to stick it to Russia (despite the destruction of a democratic Afghan government), then falling back to supporting Isreal or passively encouraging instability in the Middle East.

I might not agree with this, but it seems what the gentleman on O'Reilly was trying to voice while being "interviewed".

The American goverment has been playing puppet master with so many nations that eventually they will be targetted themselve.

Look at the level of paranoia displayed by the american administration during the cold war era, so fixated are they on assuring dominance that they go as far as intervening in other nations. Look at the Vietnam war, the administration thought that Hanoi would take Seoul, become a large communist state join with China and thus create a Iron Curtain in the east.

Yet had they investigated further they would realize that the East Asian rim is about as unified as Serbia, the Vietnamese were dominated by the Chinese and they would never ally themselves with them. Lack of local information cost them lives, money, and years tied up in a needless war. They werent fighting a communist war, the Vietnamese were fighting a war for freedom.

Then one brings up Bamdrew's point. Remember that Osama Bin Laden started a terrorist campaign against the US because of the military buildup in Saudia Arabia. Pick up a globe once in a while, look at the current spread of American military bases, it's astounding. The forces of the United States military are located in nearly 130 countries around the world. Some of these deployments have existed for nearly 50 years, as in Japan, Germany, and South Korea, while other deployments have more recent origins such as the current occupation of Iraq. This and unilateral actions that create these terrorists.

The videos provided on VideoSift clearly represent this, the documentary clips I posted, along with the defense budget displayed in Oreo cookies (LOL but very relevant really)

This is becoming almost cyclical now. The more pressure you apply in these and other regions the more you will beat the drums of war, its been nearly 5 years since 9/11 and what exactly has the administration achieved? Osama Bin Laden is loose, there is chaos in Iraq, the american economy went from a surplus to a huge deficit, the middle east is even more tense now with Iran.

At some point there comes a realization that maybe the policies adapted for the last 60 years do not benefit the american people or the world. Instead of creating allies, we have gone back to the days of pre-colonial isolationism.

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