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23 Comments
ShakyJakesays...Is it just me, or was that guest not a very clean-looking man? Or is this the subconscious kicking in, here, and associating "black" with "cocaine dealer"? Or maybe Bill's dealers are just considerably more upscale? Whatever the case, it's still a pretty crass joke.
NetRunnersays...*news
*politics
*equality
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Equality, News, Politics) - requested by NetRunner.
Deanosays..."You find another way to do it". So he just admitted he wants to move the problem around?
Drachen_Jagersays...Actually he looks more like a serial loofah (or is that falafel?) abuser to me.
CaptainPlanetsays...anyone else think this is abit racist ?
Paybacksays...Someone once said insanity is repeating something expecting a different outcome every time.
So, if any of you were expecting to see a non-racist Billo show, you're FUCKING LOONY!
EDDsays...I saw this headline from work where YouTube is blocked (i.e. I didn't see the thumbnail or YouTube description), and I just immediately knew that the guest had to be black. I guess BillO's chronic doucheitis hasn't passed.
joedirtsays...the war on drugs has been proven to be complete failure and waste of money.
All troops on the border do is make poor people crossing take more risks.
The drugs will still come in through cars, trucks, walmart shipping containers.
What a fucking idiot BillO is.
berticussays...>> ^CaptainPlanet:
anyone else think this is abit racist ?
Not just abit. I think it's racist alot!
blankfistsays...Wow. Racist. I was waiting for him to say, "Actually you look more like a crack dealer." To put it over.
Darkhandsays...Are you serious?
Look I'm no Bill O fan that's for sure. But I think everyone (except Glenn Beck) has the right to say what they want. But wow...
I mean, that's like me talking to Obama's wife and being like "Lets say we have a prostitute, and by the way you look like a prostitute"
alien_conceptsays...I want to know how Bill knows what a cocaine dealer is supposed to look like
xxovercastxxsays...>> ^alien_concept:
I want to know how Bill knows what a cocaine dealer is supposed to look like
As a rich, white republican, I'm sure Bill has had at least one encounter involving cocaine and a gay prostitute.
dannym3141says...THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME WHERE I STICK UP FOR THIS ASSHOLE!
C'mon........racism? I think you're all racist for assuming that because he's a black man, any references to him being a dealer must be racist rather than a joke.
I've heard about a million jokes like this, i've used it myself hundreds of times. I've heard it on the radio, i've seen it on TV.. If you STOP yourself from saying something you'd normally say to A PERSON because that person is black, then that's inequality of a different kind, my friends.
On surface value, there's absolutely no reason to think that this might be racist. If he's got a reputation for it, then ok. But as a surface viewer only, there's no racism here. It's about the only clip i've ever seen o'reilly say something that doesn't make me want to vomit.
ShakyJakesays...Danny, the trouble I had with the clip is that if I imagine something like this coming from someone like Jon Stewart, I imagine the joke to have a certain structure. There would be a setup, a twist, and then a punchline, and it would certainly have no similarity to the "joke" told here. Coming from Bill, it just sounds like the kind of mean-spirited quip you'd hear on an elementary playground, where the goal is less focused on being funny and more so on getting a cheap shot in on someone just for the sake of it.
I don't even know if he does this stuff consciously, anymore. Take any interview he's ever had with someone with a potentially opposing stance from his and he comes across as extremely demeaning almost as part of a natural reflex. Pinheads!
geo321says...Well...Bill O has played to the ignorant crowd for his entire career. That's his niche. And fox's niche...and the overrunning tactic is divide and conquer by false dichotomy. You can cut and paste false dichotomies into every propaganda initiative. An us Vs them two dimensional ideological world. The truth is that races of people don't exist. The British empire broke down all humans into four races centuries ago(and they weren't the only on'es by far). And it stuck. But as I said races don't exist. They are a social construct. >> ^dannym3141:
THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME WHERE I STICK UP FOR THIS ASSHOLE!
C'mon........racism? I think you're all racist for assuming that because he's a black man, any references to him being a dealer must be racist rather than a joke.
I've heard about a million jokes like this, i've used it myself hundreds of times. I've heard it on the radio, i've seen it on TV.. If you STOP yourself from saying something you'd normally say to A PERSON because that person is black, then that's inequality of a different kind, my friends.
On surface value, there's absolutely no reason to think that this might be racist. If he's got a reputation for it, then ok. But as a surface viewer only, there's no racism here. It's about the only clip i've ever seen o'reilly say something that doesn't make me want to vomit.
dannym3141says...>> ^ShakyJake:
Danny, the trouble I had with the clip is that if I imagine something like this coming from someone like Jon Stewart, I imagine the joke to have a certain structure. There would be a setup, a twist, and then a punchline, and it would certainly have no similarity to the "joke" told here. Coming from Bill, it just sounds like the kind of mean-spirited quip you'd hear on an elementary playground, where the goal is less focused on being funny and more so on getting a cheap shot in on someone just for the sake of it.
I don't even know if he does this stuff consciously, anymore. Take any interview he's ever had with someone with a potentially opposing stance from his and he comes across as extremely demeaning almost as part of a natural reflex. Pinheads!
2 things:
1) I don't know where you've imagined this formal joke structure from. Humour comes in so many different shapes and sizes, i've heard (on tv, in public) and said almost identical comments that were intended in jest and recieved in jest. If i said this to a black person and they told me i was racist, not only would they be absolutely wrong, but i'd be racist if i DIDN'T say it just because they were black.
2) Ok, he may have a reputation, but if you judge everything he ever says based on that reputation, when is there ever a chance for redemption? I'd rather chastise him for every wrong thing he's ever said than accidentally chastise him for something he says that isn't wrong. Because then we're punishing good behaviour and the puppy is less likely to behave well in the future.
And geo321 - so there ...weren't any races before the british empire, or..? And is "race" a bad thing? It's surely an identifying characteristic, but i don't know why you feel opposed to the idea of people having a race. Should we stop referring to hair colour, eye colour, native language too?
gwiz665says...You look like a cocaine dealer, what with your fancy suit, nice tie and fine pink complexion.
Mi1lersays...if you put 10,000 all that does is make the people who smuggle those drugs become more dangerous because its a bigger risk for them to go across the border.
ShakyJakesays...Jokes certainly do have structures, Danny, and you even read the first link on google to see what I'm talking about. Watch any comedian and you'll see them using these same techniques in their routine, and it's funny for exactly the reasons they give, being the twist, the punchline, whatever. But when you simply interject a statement like "And by the way, you look like a cocaine dealer" into your story, it's not really a joke anymore so much as a simple insult. I know that I dislike O'Reilly, and I'll be harder on him that I would be on someone else doing the same thing, but it's still true. You can watch other shows like Stewart's of Bill Mahr's and see them make jokes at the expense of someone's race, and not come across as a complete asshat like Bill does here.
bananafonesays...We could increase military spending OR actually make a real profit off of something people will keep buying anyway.
Drug dealers want it kept illegal.
lampishthingsays...I may be drunk but tat is the most racist thing I've hearx all day. That guy looked educated to me.
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