And each and everyone one believes 'they' are right perspective and everyone else is wrong.

LOL

>> ^honkeytonk73:
And each and everyone one believes 'they' are right perspective and everyone else is wrong.
LOL


Doesn't everyone in the world think they are right and other people are wrong And some of the religions there aren't really have notions of right or wrong. Hell, the first one is an atheist who can't “believe” in right or wrong (I am lumping agnostic ideals in here as well in this association).

I thought that was pretty cool though, most of the future shows always make it out that there is only one culture and religion for all the different aliens. There are never counter cultures or anything like that, they are always the same and unified in areas like that. Nice that they show a little diversity for once.

>> ^honkeytonk73:
And each and everyone one believes 'they' are right perspective and everyone else is wrong.
LOL


The message was more or less the same as this one.

Athiests aren't people that "can't believe in right and wrong" That also makes it sound like athiests and agnostics don't believe an form of morality.

The average athiest would say religion is very "wrong". Through education and an open mind, they are usually pretty sure they are "right" about this.

>> ^krelokk:
Athiests aren't people that "can't believe in right and wrong" That also makes it sound like athiests and agnostics don't believe an form of morality.
The average athiest would say religion is very "wrong". Through education and an open mind, they are usually pretty sure they are "right" about this.



edit, made this a profile responce because it was very long and convoluted.

It would be nice if someone would make a video like this and do it as though they were introducing each person to the view instead. Same thing name and then what their faith or beliefs are. Then maybe we could all appreciate better the amazing perspectives in the world.

Name all the different belief systems you know, then think about your friends and family and see if you can recall what they believe in.

*note he is just introducing what could be considered religious beliefs, that doesn't include any philisophical, political, or social beliefs Wow!

@GeeSussFreak

Why do you move the conversation from a public forum to that guys profile, directly? I hate it when people do that to me. What's wrong with a public conversation.

And I read a good amount of your response. Atheists don't have a hard time with morality - your response is reflected by a fundamental misunderstanding of what morality is/should be. The basic issue is that religion views morality as a static, divine definition that is unchanging except through some form of divine inspiration. Whereas atheists are more likely to continually re-evaluate their system of morality along with changing societal issues, technology, etc... and there are plenty of methods for coming up with a system of morality outside of religion - I'd suggest taking an ethics class. Or watching Dawkins' videos on the subject, I know there are a bunch here.

But anyway, my main question remains - why do people insist on moving conversations to more private locales? That happened to me when I was discussing all the mormon stuff... maybe it's just me, but that seems quite annoying.

Sigh.... as others stated; I don't see why people assume atheists/agnostics are amoral. It shows the further bigotry of religious types. If only the world was tolerant the way this clip implies. The reality is that a scary portion of this country is intolerant on many levels... not just religion. People like dividing things up into us v them and religion offers an excellent opportunity to do so.

Remember boys and girls, this is a chrisian nation...

>> ^braindonut:
@GeeSussFreak
Why do you move the conversation from a public forum to that guys profile, directly? I hate it when people do that to me. What's wrong with a public conversation.
And I read a good amount of your response. Atheists don't have a hard time with morality - your response is reflected by a fundamental misunderstanding of what morality is/should be. The basic issue is that religion views morality as a static, divine definition that is unchanging except through some form of divine inspiration. Whereas atheists are more likely to continually re-evaluate their system of morality along with changing societal issues, technology, etc... and there are plenty of methods for coming up with a system of morality outside of religion - I'd suggest taking an ethics class. Or watching Dawkins' videos on the subject, I know there are a bunch here.
But anyway, my main question remains - why do people insist on moving conversations to more private locales? That happened to me when I was discussing all the mormon stuff... maybe it's just me, but that seems quite annoying.


Profile responce as well

^ zomg, DELETED

I like to keep conversations in context. But that's a personal preference.

>> ^ponceleon:
Sigh.... as others stated; I don't see why people assume atheists/agnostics are amoral. It shows the further bigotry of religious types. If only the world was tolerant the way this clip implies. The reality is that a scary portion of this country is intolerant on many levels... not just religion. People like dividing things up into us v them and religion offers an excellent opportunity to do so.
Remember boys and girls, this is a chrisian nation...




Please read that profile response, I do not think that atheists and agnostics have to be amoral, there are just consequences that arise from certain philosophical positions about morality. I was a Atheist for many many years, and my best friend is an agnostic, I have no hated or intolerance about them at all. In fact, in a lot of ways, they are still my brothers and sisters as I am a child of doubt and speculation. At times, I find I have more in common with no belief than with believers. I am a person that is always questioning everything. That isn't always a desirable thing in a church setting and I usually rub people the wrong with with my Socratic questioning of their foundational beliefs. We are all trying to find out those pressing questions of why we are here and who we really are. I just try and make sure people aren't lying to themselves or not thought about it all the way through...myself included. My mission statement in life is very much like that of Socrates; “I know nothing”. It is only when you know nothing that you are free to learn anything.

That didn't show a dominant religion. Oh man, what a missed opportunity to have a cameo by Xenu.