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12511 says...

True, they rally against things other than torture (and sometimes I disagree with them), but my point was mainly about the objectification of women. I don't see how the analogy fits.

>> ^Payback:
PETA "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals", nothing about torture in their name, granted, it's a big part of their belief system, and what they mostly fight against, but they aren't actually against using animals as food, just how the animals are treated before and during slaughter. They also fight against the training of animals, like at SeaWorld, and you can't possibly make me believe SeaWorld is torturing their animals. Not treating ethically maybe, but certainly not torture.

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12511 says...

They throw cows in Texas? Is it to tenderize them?

>> ^peggedbea:
its true, i went to high school in an even smaller texas town they forced us to read farenheit 451 and me and my english teacher would have really long public discussions are about william burroughs and charles bukowski and all the sick shit they write about and how much we love it. noone got the media called on them. its all good. every town has one or two of these.... though my debate partners mom threw a cow because we chose homosexuality as a topic.

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