I'm telling you, blanky my friend, you are my favorite troll.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
>> ^bareboards2:

Oh no! Why did you kill it??? I didn't want you to kill it!!
I haven't even seen it! I have no opinion!!!!!


Bravo.

>> ^bareboards2:

Oh no! Why did you kill it??? I didn't want you to kill it!!
I haven't even seen it! I have no opinion!!!!!


Bravo.

Wow. Are you super cool or what?

Upvote you for wanting to just have fun.

In reply to this comment by Stingray:
I thought about it for a while, and removed it because the video doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a dumb video I found and submitted it to notch up my star points and nothing more. The video also represents a catalyst for causing a ton of controversy on the sift, and I don't really want to be caught up in it.

Someone else can sift it if they'd like.
>> ^bareboards2:

Oh no! Why did you kill it??? I didn't want you to kill it!!
I haven't even seen it! I have no opinion!!!!!

I thought about it for a while, and removed it because the video doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a dumb video I found and submitted it to notch up my star points and nothing more. The video also represents a catalyst for causing a ton of controversy on the sift, and I don't really want to be caught up in it.

Someone else can sift it if they'd like.
>> ^bareboards2:

Oh no! Why did you kill it??? I didn't want you to kill it!!
I haven't even seen it! I have no opinion!!!!!

>> ^Stingray:

kill


Why did you kill it? Don't let others browbeat you into killing your videos.

Normally I wouldn't be posting in this discussion, but I feel like I got semi-dragged into it by a video I posted a month ago and was essentially called out into this.

I don't generally get involved in conversations around here because I learned a long time ago that you're not going to win any prize for proving your point on the Internet. People are always going to believe what they want to believe, because everyone feels they are right on the matter, and reading words on a screen (usually written in anger) is not going to change their minds.

I visit VideoSift for videos, not discussion. If I like a video or think it's funny, I'll upvote it. Most videos I disagree with, I will never even watch to begin with.

When I posted the topless chair jousting video (http://videosift.com/video/Topless-Chair-Jousting-New-Olympic-Sport-for-2012), I basically figured it was a fun, stupid video that people would find funny. The women in the video are not being forced to do that against their will and appear to be having a fun time. They also have padding and helmets on to protect them from any injury.

As is common in television and radio, sex sells... and that's no different on the Internet. Videos that "shock and awe" people will get huge votes. I figured, if people don't like my video, they can downvote it. However, since the way VideoSift is driven is by its members, and the members with more star points have more power, then is it wrong of me to "sell" my videos to get more upvotes and star points?

That video sat around for a full month in my p-queue with no one voting on it, even with the words topless and blatant thumbnail showing breasts. No one cared because no one saw it, until today when it was seen and promoted.

My own opinion on this matter and on VideoSift in general is this:

If you don't like it, downvote it. That is the way the system works. VideoSift is much like the free world in general. You can post what you like, provided it doesn't break any rules... sometimes people post things for fun, others post for a cause.

I have already walked away from VideoSift twice before. I needed to take a break... I was sucking up too much of my time into competing for star points and not taking care of things in my life outside of the Internet. I came back slowly and I generally just lurk in the background.

I infrequently submit videos I find. Sometimes I see a video and think to myself "Wow, this video is great! Lots of people will upvote it!" or other times I see a video with subject matter that I care about and think it is worthy of a greater showing and submit them, even though I know they're just destined for my p-queue because no one will even bother watching them.

The point is, I've come to accept the fact that I just lurk in the background and I know that any videos I may post about what I may really care about probably won't get seen by anyone here. I also already know that at least half the people reading my post right now have already tuned out and don't really care what I have to say to begin with.

Holy crap my comment has caused a nice little shitstorm hasn't it?

From my point of view:

* Yes, my second comment (the one that caused the furore) was what I felt when I watched the video, the way the guy was, his demeanour, everything about him just made me think of that type of man. And yeah I have no idea of the backstory of this, and yeah, maybe they all did think it was all in great fun, even her. I just don't think it's that clear cut, I have a feeling she is kinda sad that she let it happen... but again, it's what I FEEL/IMAGINE about the video, it's what I take from it, and I said it in the comment, it reminded me of those types of men. And that type of man doesn't just do it to women, he does it to anyone he thinks he can wield power over. Again, maybe he's not like that... but I have a suspicion he might be. And it was that feeling that the video left with me that made me make the comment and downvote.

* I think all nut hit videos are shithouse, I think Americas/Australias Funniest Home videos is a crapfest of low grade dribble. Yeah, I thought being hit in the nuts was funny up until, I dunno, probably the age of 9 or so, but don't any more. It's fine that other people do of course, but it saddens me that grown people can spend an entire show effectively just watching people hurt themselves... and do so every time it's on TV. And that so many people watch it, but then I feel the same way about UFC, Jackass and any number of things that are hugely popular because people are either beating the shit out of each other or hurting each other in the most extreme ways possible.

* I don't give a flying fuck if you call me boring, straight laced, dull. I know who I am, I know I have an awesome family, job, life. And I know that I don't need to pretend to like violence, sport or sexism just to be popular.

* I like fart jokes

* Those of you who spent SO LONG voicing how important it was that the video was on videosift, and also those who linked to even worse videos, such as the real/fake video of the woman being punched during an argument really need to wonder why you did so. Why is it SO important to you that people see some sort of worth in videos like this? Seriously.

* Gwiz... *sigh* I have gone back and forth thinking you've got real issues with sex and women and that no, you're just misunderstood. But after you posting this video and trying to suggest it has merit, and then promoting the topless one, and the known history of yourself and members here IRL, I'm starting to think your view of women is being seriously affected by a diet entirely too rich in internet porn. Why do you constantly feel the need to bring that shit to the sift? Porn and sexism is EVERYWHERE on the internet, why does it have to be here? Why can this not be a place where women can come without feeling like it's a boy's club? Fuck man, just get your porn fix somewhere else and come here after you've cum...

* Trying to say 'you'd have no issue with the video if it were just men' is avoiding the fact that women are STILL FAR more the victims of male aggression and force and intimidation than the other way around. You can't go on about 'well, women want equality, here it is' bullshit either. Equality doesn't mean everyone should treat everyone like dumb shits, it should be everyone treating everyone with respect.

Look, whatever, people will just continue to say I'm a downer and boring and a killjoy and am trying to impose my beliefs on them, but you know what? There are WAY more places on the net you can indulge your stupid jock, sexist, violent, low brow side, and bugger all where you can come for some pretty interesting discussions about videos. Don't drag the sift to the levels of digg and 4chan and youtube please, it'd really fuck up my day.

Also, it makes me damn sad that you've made women here on the sift feel like this, it really does.

I'm not entirely sure what you're upset about..

Are you upset about the video itself? or the comments ribbing it.

The video itself I see nothing wrong with, she obviously agreed to do it and knew what she was getting into. Yes, she got punched, no, it wasn't in anger and it wasn't somewhere that would truly hurt. (getting hit in the boob, eye, or nose would hurt a helluva lot more, i'm sure.)

The comments are nothing out of the ordinary, I tend to see videosift as a fairly close knit community. Maybe because I've been a member for years and I've just gotten used to them. When people feel comfortable with those around them, they make stupid jokes that they wouldn't otherwise, because generally "Everybody else" knows they're only joking.

I made a joke the other day on the drunk woman at the beach video about "maybe if she was wearing a one-piece." I'm not a sexist, I don't actually care what people are wearing as long as they enjoy how they look. I only said that because it was a stupid joke, nothing more. I feel that's how most of the community operates.

I'm more curious as to what you're specifically upset about so I can understand further.

edit: ah, the topless jousting.

That's just something that you'll unfortunately have to get used to. There was a large discussion on what classifies as "porn" on the sift not long ago, and ever since the floodgates have been open for people posting the dumbest stuff with naked people with the blanket over it labled "art".

It's something that's too tricky to nail down, and people exploit that.

Stirring the pot for no reason. If you don't like a video, downvote it, or avoid it. People have difference of opinion, this is not a little pond, you have to deal with it.

The reason the sift is a good place to be, is because we are so different people. If you don't like it and want to change it to only include your version of reality, then this is not the place for you. I don't think any of the internet really is, when you think about it.

Videosift has a fine filtering mechanism - or well, IS a filtering mechanism, to sift out the crap from the internet. Sometimes things get through that you may not like. Plenty of stuff on here annoys the crap out of me, but I just go around it or even downvote it.

A finishing note is, everything does not revolve around you. I certainly didn't promote that one to attack you or any of the women of the sift - I did it because I like boobs in motion and the video is fun if stupid, and to piss off all the white knights templar who have all the right opinions on the sift.

The cunt punching video is not sexist. The topless chair jousting (http://videosift.com/video/Topless-Chair-Jousting-New-Olympic-Sport-for-2012) video is not sexist. They are no more sexist than all the Old Spice commercials with Isiah Mustafa flexing his pecks to sell deoderant.

>> ^bareboards2:

see my sift talk post


Hi, I'm assuming you're referring to your most recent sift talk post:
http://horrorshow.videosift.com/talk/I-m-not-enjoying-the-trolling-on-the-Sift

If that's the case, please be aware I posted this video a month ago before you posted the sift talk and now my video was just recently promoted. I understand the thumbnail may be offensive to some people, so I'll gladly change it to something less offensive... however since the entire video is of a topless woman jousting another woman in a bikini, I don't really know how else to get an appropriate thumbnail.

enjoying stupid humor (which im sure we can all agree it is) does not make one stupid. I think that is the underlying issue here, at least the one i have a problem with. if slapstick, stupid humor, or whatever the hell else you wanna call this is not your cup of tea, no worries; different strokes for different folks. but when you want to point out all the persons who upvoted for the misogynistic, dumb fuck, witless, woman haters we so obviously are, then i think its time to climb down from that pedestal before you break your neck from turning your nose up so sharply

furthermore, in what ways is this video different from http://videosift.com/video/Kicked-In-The-Nuts-World-Record (particularly as it pertains to VS devolving into YT)? oh this one has a woman instead of a man, how silly of me (thats that super witty sarcasm at work there).
consider the following:
http://videosift.com/video/If-this-isnt-eia-NOTHING-IS
http://videosift.com/video/The-very-definition-of-Evolution-in-Action-20-seconds
http://videosift.com/video/An-EPIC-Nut-Shot
http://videosift.com/video/Slide-Divider-Vs-Nuts
http://videosift.com/video/Nut-Shot-World-Champion-Not-Removed-From-Gene-Pool
so on and so forth.

additionally, http://videosift.com/video/Topless-Chair-Jousting-New-Olympic-Sport-for-2012 is linked below in the related videos. ya its only got four votes (im a sucker for boobies so i upvoted, sue me for being a guy) and theres no controversy voiced in the comments to speak of.........what, really, is the damn difference?

my point being, if this humor suits you, upvote, if it doesnt, dont vote or downvote even, but can we please stop with the inquisition of gwizz and how much of a woman hater he is, and how derp he is for posting this, and how much of a saboteur he is, and how he wants VS to become stupid YT, pretty pretty please?

>> ^jmd:

Ok I'm sorry... but when a snippit of porn is submitted and voted to the top 15, this site has turned to shit.

exactly! ...why the hell isn't it number one?

>> ^jmd:

Ok I'm sorry... but when a snippit of porn is submitted and voted to the top 15, this site has turned to shit diamonds.

>> ^shuac:

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Sorry, I was cleaning off my keyboard.


Looks like you're wiping in an up & down motion. Try side to side, go the length of the keyboard in long strokes. Wax on, wax off.... and don't forget the space bar.

>> ^ForgedReality:

>> ^Darkhand:
10 RECEIVE INFORMATION
20 PROCESS DATA ON HARD DRIVE
30 COMMENCE OUTPUT
40 GOTO 10

Only one of those is a BASIC command. You fail. I think you need to watch this video some more. It's very informative. You might learn something!
I know I learned a lot....


Yeah, missing some PEEKs and POKEs.