>> ^Fjnbk:
Mark Sanford has been an idiot on the fiscal and monetary front, but he's never said that much about moral matters. Yes, he voted for Clinton's impeachment, but it's disingenuous to paint him as a Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell type politician.


He supports teacher-led prayer in schools along with displaying the 10 commandments in school. He defines marriage as "one man, one woman" (and mistress?) and stated that South Carolina should not recognize same-sex civil unions. He also opposes adoption rights for gay couples.

Sure, there are far more vocal (and extreme) people out there on such issues, but that doesn't change Sanford's stated view of the importance of marriage and opposition to allowing homosexuals to take part in it.

He's certainly free to not like homosexuals, but it kinda sucks to see people use political office to promote religious "morality" at the expense of the rights of others. His infidelity doesn't change my view of him, it just makes his stance on marriage even more laughable.


Random Sanford quotes:
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2009/06/24/mark-sanford-governor-of-black-pots-and-kettles/comment-page-1/

Mark Sanford has been an idiot on the fiscal and monetary front, but he's never said that much about moral matters. Yes, he voted for Clinton's impeachment, but it's disingenuous to paint him as a Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell type politician.

>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^deedub81:
YEAH!!! We should just lower the standards! Anyone who isn't perfect can't talk about morals! You have to be flawless in order to encourage others to be good!

What about people who try to pass off their personal prejudices as "morality"?

>> ^quantumushroom:
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Shelton_C20070904.jpg


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/24/18485/2046

Mine requires reading comprehension.

To put it in comic-strip form, I'd say the bar is at the same low level, both animals trip over it, and the elephant says "because my side was higher, only you should have to resign!"

To which, the donkey says "HYPOCRITE!"

>> ^deedub81:
YEAH!!! We should just lower the standards! Anyone who isn't perfect can't talk about morals! You have to be flawless in order to encourage others to be good!


What about people who try to pass off their personal prejudices as "morality"?

Honestly, I feel bad for the guy. His behavior has been inexcusable and he's been an annoying idiot when it comes to the stimulus, but it seems that he really regrets his actions here. Ensign was different, but Sanford is taking all the blame on himself and being gracious towards his family. His life is completely in ruins; we don't need to pile on now, make our jokes, and laugh.

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YEAH!!! We should just lower the standards! Anyone who isn't perfect can't talk about morals! You have to be flawless in order to encourage others to be good!



>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^NobleOne:
oh and another thing the people of videosift must be perfect and never do anything wrong.... i am only guessing since everyone is so quick to condemn someone else...I am sure i am the only videosifter with skeletons in the closet.

Actually I don't care about him leaving the country or cheating on his wife. No one is perfect, so he's guilty of being human.
What I have a problem with is him using his political power to block any form of civil union or same-sex marriage. He acts like he is so morally superior to others and that marriage is too "important" to give to homosexuals.
The fact that he is a complete hypocrite just makes it funny.

True that!

My point is that I hate when we play the "Democrats are ALWAYS right and republicans are always wrong game (or vice versa)." Just call a spade a spade.

Again, those were just off the top of my head and I just remembered another one: David Paterson, current Gov. of NY. I'm sure there are others, I just don't care to look.


I just want to make sure you have the facts straight. Paterson is still Gov of NY so he obviously didn't resign, Newsom didn't resign, Clinton didn't resign, Edwards didn't resign (he had already removed himself from the Presidential race), and Condit didn't resign. Only Spitzer and Hart resigned, not 'all but one' like you stated.

Edwards and Clinton have continued to be active in politics since their affairs were made public. Clinton remains popular among some democrats and Edwards gave an interview last week in which he stated, "What happens now? If you were to ask people during the campaign who's talking most about [poverty], it was me. There's a desperate need in the world for a voice of leadership on this issue. . . . The president's got a lot to do, he's got a lot of people to be responsible for, so I'm not critical of him, but there does need to be an aggressive voice beside the president."

I guess he thinks the world needs him. Doesn't sound like a resignation to me.



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In reply to this comment by deedub81:
^I'm pretty sure he's not gay. Didn't he cheat with a lady?



...and don't try to make this a partisan thing. It's a SCUMBAG thing. I could give you a few examples of the infidelity of prominent Democrats from off the top of my head:

Bill Clinton
John Edwards
Eliot Spitzer (Gov of NY involved in Prostitute Scandal)
Gary Hart (Ran against Bush Sr. in '88)
Gary Condit (The guy involved in the Chandra Levy Murder Scandal)

...but Republicans ARE on a roll right now. Pitiful.
Gavin Newsom (Dirtbag Mayor of San Freaksisco)


Yes, the Republicans are on a roll NOW compared to the list you provided. This is the second such incident in so many weeks where as the examples you listed are old news. I mean come on, Gary Hart? That was over twenty years ago! Yes, Democrats do get caught up in a mess like this, but the difference, as in the case of Spitzer, they RESIGN or step aside (as all but one of your examples did). Ensign, the mens room toe tapper Craig, prostitute and diaper aficionado David Vitter stay on, despite the wishes of their constitutes. These examples are off the top of my head as well, but a big part of why I remember them is because they happened with in the last two years or less.
As fair as it being a partisan thing, if Al Gore’s home’s carbon footprint and his use of private CO2 spewing jets are fair game in the “Who’s a Hypocrite Game” , then any Family Values politician that acts like this is fair game as well. You know, that thing about what people in glass houses should avoid doing.

BTW Gary Hart did NOT run against Bush in 1988. Hart didnt even make it past two primaries.

>> ^NobleOne:
oh and another thing the people of videosift must be perfect and never do anything wrong.... i am only guessing since everyone is so quick to condemn someone else...I am sure i am the only videosifter with skeletons in the closet.


Actually I don't care about him leaving the country or cheating on his wife. No one is perfect, so he's guilty of being human.

What I have a problem with is him using his political power to block any form of civil union or same-sex marriage. He acts like he is so morally superior to others and that marriage is too "important" to give to homosexuals.

The fact that he is a complete hypocrite just makes it funny.

That would be a horrible rationalization for cheating on your wife.

...but it's still a frickin' funny cartoon.

>> ^quantumushroom:
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Shelton_C20070904.jpg

Hahahaha. Well, Mister Sanford, let me be the first to say, um, your apology is accepted and hilarious. Secondly, can you tell me why anyone outside of my parents, who coincidentally live in South Carolina now, should care?

We've got e-mail!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/24/746444/-The-Sanford-E-mails

>> ^NetRunner:
<snip>...I almost guarantee you he'll still try to run for President in 2012. Republicans have no shame.


I'd be pretty shocked to see that happen. If it turns out that he used taxpayer money to fly to Argentina for an affair, I'd be surprised if he isn't forced to resign as Governor.

>> ^NobleOne:
F ck his affiliation whether it be rep or dem... I respect this man based on the truth... that he has the balls to come clean...being that most politicians still lie or are lying...



Yea, it's amazing how willing politicians are to come clean after getting caught.

One must wonder if he would have said anything if no one had noticed his vehicle sitting at the airport while he was supposedly hiking the App Trail.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
And this just in: Sanford is actually a Democrat! Fox News says so.


Unfrickinreal