Without wishing to bang on about it - that happens a LOT on the internet. I think it's less about tone of voice and more about people being so offended by inequality that they are over aggressive in their pursuit of equality. They attack the argument before fully understanding it or allowing it to be fully expressed.

It's a really tight line to walk and I know this because I have in the past offended respectful, honest people in my crusade which was against abuse of power and authority. I hated being mistreated by people in authority so much that I became prejudiced against people in authority. The reason I behaved like that is because of how I was treated by authority figures in my formative years and the defence mechanisms I developed because of it. And in the same way, some women who are very poorly treated by men may develop barriers, prejudices and coping mechanisms in response.

(... and that's why I make a dozen edits to my posts. Sometimes I get carried away and detract entirely from what I was trying to achieve.)

I'm not saying that's the underlying cause of the misunderstanding here, but the point I'm trying to make is that there may be good reasons why someone just said something you thought was sexist. Problems arise, I think, when we deal in absolutes; this person is definitely chauvinist because he's ignorant and rude, this person is definitely a man-hater because she is ignorant and rude - both may be unfair to the other.

Seconded. You can subscribe to feminism and individualism, or feminism and collectivism, or any other combination of these different schools of thought - one is not 'better' than the others in the sense that a hammer isn't 'better' than a saw or a drill.

The way that the internet is turning actual schools of thought and study into 'teams' to be on is the same mechanism that drives a lot of amateur identity politics. "I don't want to be on team feminist because that team is rude on twitter, so I'll be on team humanist" is a sentiment that works great in vlogs, but which kicks all the actual thought and theory behind humanism and feminism, respectively, to the curb in favor of team politics. This is not to say that we shouldn't have 'teams,' just that we can make up those teams without discarding years of high quality thinking and actual crisp definitions.

Oh yay, it's Gavin McInnes, the white nationalist dude that got booted from the company he founded for being even worse than the rest of Vice...

" McInnes has referred to Asian-Americans as "slopes" and "riceballs," suggested Muslims are "stupider" and "more violent" due to inbreeding, defended blackface because some minstrel shows were "just mimicking black people" and "fun," backed the racist comments of Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson, and argued that to yell the n-word at someone is "not racist" but "just very rude."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/05/meet-the-hipster-racist-fox-news-guest-attackin/199617

Making choices of a higher morality and ethical value definitely makes anyone superior. You yourself are more superior than anyone that has made the choice to beat a woman, are you not? You are physically capable of it, perhaps there might even be a life threatening or survival situation where it's necessary, but you don't do it simply because "you can" or because it makes you feel good. That is what makes you superior.
You're also superior to anyone that has decided to drive drunk too. You are superior to people who take slaves, you are superior to people that run or knowingly buy from sweatshops, etc etc.

Churches and cults are different story because they are based on flawed traditions instead of logical and consequence based choices, and demonstrable fact. Becoming vegan is a rational decision (funnily enough "spiritual" people are the ones that tend to be most aggressive when approached about veganism).

Even non vegans like Sam Harris will agree that it's the ethically superior thing to do.

Three year olds aren't necessarily self-aware either, and I hear that with a bit of south-west sauce they cook up real nice. But wait, you know that's wrong, because being self-aware isn't the only thing we measure this situation by. There are a lot of factors that go into this and in our current time and state of civilization we know it's wrong, however there have been cannibals in the past after all. Sentient or not we know that animals feel pain, they get sad, they can be happy etc. Yet we inflict pain onto them for our pleasure, that is wrong. When you see a street dog all messed up you feel sad for it. Compassion is built into us.

Well yelling at a stranger without provocation is a pretty shitty thing to do. Like I said vegans are a varied group of people, so naturally some of them are rude c***ts that forget that they weren't always vegan lol. I make no excuses for them. But as with any demographic unfortunately the obnoxious ones are the ones that get noticed. To give you an example of nice vegans, there is always someone like John Venus on youtube or the Light Twins.

@WeedandWeirdness

do you identify with a video so strongly as to become offended and/or irritated if someone downvotes?

@chicchorea actually showed respect by stating this video wasn't his deal.many here don't,they just downvote.

to say that chicchorea's original comment was intended to be insulting and rude may be true,but it is a presumption,with zero evidence to support your presumption.

i took it as him being a smart ass and berating himself for lacking the discipline to make it to the end of the video before down-voting.

my claim is also a presumption,based on very little.
which of our presumptions are more valid?

you seem a decent sort,and this is just a misunderstanding.
i am with @chicchorea and @newtboy on their opinions on this band.

i would say punk has changed,but i have been digging these guys for awhile:
http://videosift.com/video/downtown-boys-americas-most-exciting-punk-band

to each their own,all based on their talents and proclivities.i look forward to your video submissions @WeedandWeirdness

Understood. I just don't think it was necessary for the users first comment to begin with. It was rude and was meant to be insulting. I took personal affront to that, and pretty sure that was intended by this user. Swearing too...The user then down voted it after I motivated them too. Seems it was in spite, so...I think your being a bit one sided doll. That's MY opinion.

"Going only off of that vid, I'm inclined to take the managers side on this one."
I agree that there's probably more to this. I hate videos without context. That said....

"There's an air of entitlement about the way they handled the whole thing. "

Sorry, but "entitlement" is exactly the right attitude when you're paying for a service. You don't have to be a dick about it, but it's not unreasonable to expect to get what you pay for.

"That manager doesn't come across like a guy being an asshole for the sake of it "

Really? "My dad owns this place" guy doesn't come across as an asshole? Sorry, but he seems like a spoilt little shit to me.

"If so, he's a braver man than I and should be commended for putting his self respect ahead of a mere job!"

Again, it depends on what actually happened to set this off, but from the video, this isn't a "mere job" for him. He's not some guy working there for a paycheck until he gets something better, he plans on owning the place, and as such, he needs to pull his head out of his arse and learn how to deal with customers.

"Either way the two filming should probably try to find a little perspective."

I didn't think they were particularly rude or abusive.

I do not mean to be rude, but the reason why you're feeling no empathy is because you assume that drug addiction is a choice that people make, turning away from better and brighter options and choosing the short road to an early death.

It isn't. It's generally a result of inability to deal with life, a job, trauma from their past etc. It is a result of social systems which allow people to sink to the point they need an escape. Look at any mental ward, most of the inmates (if allowed) will smoke. Same with various anon groups, smoking/coffee etc are almost encouraged as an alternate addiction to the one that will put them in a grave far earlier.

Addiction is a crutch, a way of escaping from something else.

The work by Carl Hart on addiction provides a lot of proof that when given social interaction and ways to reintegrate with society, addicts can and do have the fortitude to get off drugs. And that most drug addicts are fully functional, and drugs are a way for them to cope with the stresses or lack of control in their life.

http://www.drcarlhart.com/

To fix a problem, you first have to understand it. That does not require sympathy or empathy. That is basic science and it's based on evidence. That the DEA is freaking out over krokodil is because they don't understand that drug abuse in the US is a factor of the social situation people find themselves in. At least for the classes of people that will use a cheap and dangerous drug (not to put too fine a point on it, predominately black). It would not be unexpected that because of the supposed danger, users found with krokodil may end up with far harsher sentences than heroin users. Soaring African-American incarceration rates again?

Funny how we never see videos like this over oxycodone or cocaine abusers, or housewifes who will pop whatever prescription they can get their hands on. They are no less addicted, but it's a nice, clean, acceptable addiction that allows them to stumble on through life. Is that EIA?

I'm rude only to leftist who are not deserving civility. They have destroyed this country with their high minded self important polluted ways.

I guess you will burn in Hell with your your, wife and children, If you have some.


Say hi to Pol Pot, Stalin, and Hitler. They are saving a spot for you.

I'd offer you the common courtesy of letting you have your beliefs which I do not share, but you're an arrogant and rude ass, so I'll conclude that if religion is the panacea for the ignorant, you're their poster child... ; )

My mistake.
I'll admit, his delivery is going down hill these days. I've been a fan for a LONG time, but he's not as good as he once was by far.
I get especially annoyed when he gets upset when his audience groans at a bad taste joke, it's like he doesn't understand that's a POSITIVE reaction to a bad taste joke, and indicates his audience understands it's in bad taste. You would think he would know that after 3+ decades in snarky 'comedy'.

To your points....
When a parent takes the kids side over the teachers....well, that depends on what the issue is, but on it's face that's also coddling. The implication/infrence is that it would be about the child's behavior in class, or their academic performance, and in either case taking the child's side over the teacher is teaching them that they are more important than the authority, and/or that their word is going to be taken over an adult in authority, and their POV or opinion is the only one that matters. That's terrible, and sets them up for failure and/or prison later.
Not telling a child to shut the fuck up when they are rudely interrupting adults DOES breed poorly mannered narcissists, as it's teaching the child that what they have to say is the MOST important thing, far more important than the adult discussion they are interrupting. That's terrible, bad manners, completely unrealistic, and not good for the child's development into a decent human being. Children are not adults, and 99.9% of the time what they want to say/ask is not important. Even in those rare cases where it is important, not teaching them to not interrupt creates mannerless narcissistic douchebags that never allow other people to speak and believe their every fleeting thought is golden.
Asking a kid where they want to go to dinner....OK, that's stupid. If you just ask them, the child isn't automatically in control. If you always ask them at every meal and defer to their whim over the wishes of adults (which is what I think he meant, but not what he said), that's coddling and breeding a narcissist that believes his is the only opinion that matters to anyone and should always take precedent over other's needs/wants.

Know what's scarier than being robbed at gunpoint? Knowing that there are police out there who see themselves as the judge and jury. There's a very good reason there's a judicial system bob, and you really should know all about that. Especially considering how many "bad cop" videos you show up in; you don't want those guys being judge and jury do you?

I'd really like to engage with you and try to convince you on this, so .. you accept that you're not perfect, right? Everyone makes mistakes - it's not an insult, we're just not perfect and we can misread things or misjudge things.. right? So if your goal as a cop is to deliver the safest society possible, you surely also want to protect society from any potential harm you might cause in your duties? I assume that you agree with these points, and so don't we agree that the best way you can do your job is by being unbiased, robotic almost? Doing exactly what is needed to prevent further harm and neutralise danger and deliver the parties to those who we have decided are best positioned to deliver the judgement? Because if you dole out the judgement yourself, you might be mistaken.

I hope we agree, and i'm sorry that i was rude in the first version of this comment. That doesn't help anyone.

If I had something that qualified as cherry picking then I wouldn't be asking, I'd be telling. I'm sure you know the old adage that it's rude to answer a question with a question.

Do you have an answer to my question?

Vengeance for what exactly? Some rude language not caught, or edited from the video? For past offenses? Men looking at women with violence in their hearts? What?

Sorry about those two atomic bombs, but your rude emperor wouldn't stop being rude to us. I do however, love my Honda. You're cute and I want to do several inappropriate things to you. Why did you dye your hair red? You're not from Scotland, where all the rude things you mentioned are expected, and not doing them there is considered rude. Don't eat the food in Scotland, though.