>> ^DrewNumberTwo:

We see a man sitting in a chair for 4 seconds before he is immobilized by the police. How exactly did you determine that he has mobility issues? For all we know, he could have just thrown the owner of the wheelchair to the ground and ridden his chair down the block. And let me kick start your imagination regarding reasons to body slam him: He was armed with a knife, or a stun gun, or an extending baton, or a gun, or brass knuckles, or just his own knuckles. He was assaulting the officers, or bystanders, or family members, or children. He was resisting arrest for an extended period of time, or trying to evade the officers. Again, we have HALF THE STORY at best.


He has mobility issues. Clue number 1: HE NEVER MOVES HIS LEGS.

Like I said, I don't like choosing a side when we have only half the story, but common sense leads me to side against the two officers body-slamming a skinny old dude. If he had just thrown somebody from the scooter, where is that person? If he had a weapon, why are the officers not seen putting an object into evidence?

The reaction of the crowd and the behavior of the officers after the take-down indicates that the worst thing that the guy could have done was mouth off and maybe take a weak-ass swing at one of them.

I'm certainly open to other possibilities, but you gotta come up with something realistic. I was the one throwing out possibilities for the video where a cop tackles a teenage girl, but this crosses even my line of acceptable police precaution.

All you do not want to know about White craft glue.

http://www.gamblincolors.com/msds/pva.html

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET

Manufacturer's Name:
GAMBLIN ARTISTS COLORS CO.
PO Box 15009
Portland, OR 97293

Product: Poly Vinyl Acetate (PVA) Glue

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SECTION 1—PRODUCT IDENTITY
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Date prepared: 7/09/97 Emergency telephone no. 503/235-1945

Preparer's Name: R. Gamblin

Chemical name: Ethlyene/Vinyl Acetate Coplolymer

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SECTION II—HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS
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Chemical names CAS# Wt% OSHA PEL ACGIH TLV
This product contains no hazardous
materials under the current OSHA standard.

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SECTION III—PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS
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Boiling range: 212 F Specific gravity: 1 - 1.4
Vapor pressure: 17 % volatile (volume): 45%(water)
Vapor density: 0.62 Evaporation rate (BuOAc = 1): 1

Solubility (specify solvents): Soluble in water. Insoluble in solvents.
Appearance and odor: white liquid; slight odor.
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Flash point: >220 degree F
Extinguishing media: CO2 , dry chemical, water fog
Special firefighting procedures: water or foam may cause frothing if directed into
container of burning material. Use water to cool containers exposed to heat.

Unusual fire & explosion hazards: Immerse in water after use.
Reactivity: product is stable
Hazardous polymerization: will not occur
Conditions to avoid: avoid extreme heat

Hazardous decomposition products: Stable under normal pressure.

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SECTION V—HEALTH HAZARD DATA
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Route(s) of entry: Eye contact, ingestion of paint
Acute health effects: Eye contact may cause redness or irritation
Poly Vinyl Acetate (PVA) Glue MSDS Page 2

Inhalation: N/A
Ingestion: No known adverse health effects.
Skin contact: No know adverse health effects.

EMERGENCY FIRST AID PROCEDURES:
Eye contact: Wash with clean water for at least fifteen minutes. If irritation persists,get medical attention.
Inhalation: If swallowed, induce vomiting.
Skin contact: Flush with water; use soap if available.

CHRONIC HEALTH EFFECTS:
Not listed as a carcinogen by the NTP, IARC, or OSHA; no adverse long-term
effects are known.
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Steps to be taken in case material is spilled: Soak up spill with absorbent materials and place in containers.
Waste disposal method: Spill area can be washed with water; collect wash water for approved disposal. Do not
flush to storm sewer or waterway.
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Respiratory protection: none normally required
Ventilation: none normally required
Protective gloves: none normally required
Eye protection: safety glasses if eye contact is likely; eyewash fountain should be accessible.
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Precautions to be taken in handling and storage: store away from high temperature. Read and observe all
precautions on product label.

Other precautions: wash hands after use.
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The information contained herein is based on the data available to use and is believe to be correct. However,
Gamblin Artists Colors Co. makes no warranty, expressed or implied, regarding the accuracy of these data or the
results to be obtained from the use thereof. Gamblin assumes no responsibility for injury from the use of the product
described herein.

Being a physicist doesn't really give you the expertise to run a nuclear power plant, that's more engineering work. Kaku may be a good physicist, but he may not have a clue as to how you actually run the plant and what safety precautions are there.

>> ^Sagemind:

Oh no, Someone pulled the plug!!!
What will we do once the ocean is completely drained?


Don't worry, it's just a temporary precaution to prevent the island from tipping over.

There will always be people who want to ride fast and we can't change that. Just like there will be people who always want to own guns, or drink alcohol, or whatever.

The only thing we can hope for is that people do it in the safest way possible.

Now I know not everyone that drinks alcohol rents a room for the night to make sure they don't drive drunk, or stumble into the road and cause an accident, or throw up on some strangers shoes igniting a huge drunken brawl.

I know not everyone that owns a gun will always shoot it at a range or in a sanctioned hunting area.

It's the same way that not everyone who wants to ride a motorcycle fast will always take it to the track.

I understand why everyone here is upset. But we can't stop everyone from doing everything that is wrong all the time. Is what these riders doing wrong? Yes. Is it dangerous? Yes. But at least it's on some middle of the road nowhere (yes there are houses in the beginning but after that it looks like farmland) place. I didn't see a school bus stop or an orphanage or some kind of cute animal factory. I'm not saying it wasn't there, but I highly doubt these people would take their very expensive motorcycles on this road in such a large group if they thought there was a chance of their bikes getting wrecked.

If anyone here truly truly can tell me they always take all precautions necessary in life, then they are a better person than I am. Otherwise I suggest everyone take a look inward and realize they do things that can potentially hurt other people too, but just always minimize the risk.

Hmm.. "The kind of paranoia of Gaddafis innner circle.." Lets take a similar tour under the white house, the pentagon, 10.downing street, and see what kind of "Paranoia" resides in far less.. compromised countries, or how about the outside of the any Israeli embassy.. uh.. anywhere in the world..

I'm not denying Gaddafi is batshit insane, but these measures are seriously no more than standard precautions that any government makes for key personell. It's always interesting to see these things exposed, but seriously, I would expect nothing less from a dictator like Gaddafi.

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OK - @lucky760 will need to have a look at it. >> ^jonny:

>> ^dag:
Are you still getting this error Bertie? I'm not able to duplicate it.>> ^berticus:
Can't be logged in to both. One or the other.
"Login error
There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again."


I just reproduced it, which is weird since it was working fine after Lucky's comment Saturday. I was able to login at wiki (didn't get the login error), but was still logged out here at videosift.com. The wiki login doesn't seem stable either. Login info only seems valid on the Main Page, i.e., I'm not logged in when going to any other page on the wiki, but going back to the Main Page restores it (login info in header and edit links return).

>> ^dag:

Are you still getting this error Bertie? I'm not able to duplicate it.>> ^berticus:
Can't be logged in to both. One or the other.
"Login error
There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again."



I just reproduced it, which is weird since it was working fine after Lucky's comment Saturday. I was able to login at wiki (didn't get the login error), but was still logged out here at videosift.com. The wiki login doesn't seem stable either. Login info only seems valid on the Main Page, i.e., I'm not logged in when going to any other page on the wiki, but going back to the Main Page restores it (login info in header and edit links return).

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Are you still getting this error Bertie? I'm not able to duplicate it.>> ^berticus:

Can't be logged in to both. One or the other.
"Login error
There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again."

Can't be logged in to both. One or the other.

"Login error
There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again."

Seriously?
I didn't say I had issues with being filmed.
I said I had issues with organizations that don't take precautions and proper procedures to protect the footage they gather. If you are going to go to the extent as to gather video footage of people going about their personal lives, at least have the respect to keep it protected!

>> ^MarineGunrock:

Sagemind, if you don't want the mall filming you, don't go to the mall. If you don't want the gas station filming you, don't get gas. It's their private property, they can do as they please.

[redacted]

Hahahah, that cracks me up


In reply to this comment by thinker247:
"There" is defined as all of existence.

God takes you to "Beyond There," which is 1 percent farther from the edge of There.

Beyond There is comprised of 1 percent of all of There's existence.

The atomic composition of Beyond There is unknown, therefore we cannot assume that oxygen or carbon exist in Beyond There.

Thus, a trip to Beyond There could potentially be fatal. All risks should be assessed and all precautions should be taken before allowing god to take you 101% of the way there.

"There" is defined as all of existence.

God takes you to "Beyond There," which is 1 percent farther from the edge of There.

Beyond There is comprised of 1 percent of all of There's existence.

The atomic composition of Beyond There is unknown, therefore we cannot assume that oxygen or carbon exist in Beyond There.

Thus, a trip to Beyond There could potentially be fatal. All risks should be assessed and all precautions should be taken before allowing god to take you 101% of the way there.

sure, except backscatter is the reasons radiology techs take the precautions they do with their own bodies and wear lead and stand behind walls. it's not high energy, but it isn't entirely benign either. a 60 year old flying once or twice a year, i would not worry about at all.

but like you said, the cornea's of a child who flies a decent amount and grows up to be a business traveler, i'm more concerned.

you still get exposed to more radiation during your flight.

but since this is a TERRIBLE and EXPENSIVE way to fight terrorism, i hate it. and additional exposure to radiation is one of the reasons.

>> ^joedirt:

You can't compare backscatter to equivalent dosage. This isn't high energy X-rays that pass through the body. This isn't like high atmospheric solar radiation that passes through the body.
Backscatter X-rays work by being such low energy, they only penetrate a few mm into the skin then ionize and scatter X-rays to make the image. There is ZERO studies on what this does to children, corneas, or testicles.