Wouldn't the stop-and-frisk program qualify as one of those issues?

Or how about putting American citizens under surveillance, "not because of charges of wrongdoing but ethnicity"? Would that quality?

I'm only asking because Obama spoke out in favor of NYT police commissioner Ray Kelly as the new head of DHS and Kelly's actions just ooze racial profiling.

This is hardly worth crying over. She got felt up.
There are girls that were raped.
ex.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/05/nypd-officers-cleared-rape-charges/38188/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/03/teen-raped-court-rapist-probation/

And many more. Just google 'police rape'.

-scheherazade

@hpqp

I'm at work, so I can't write a very long reply and besides which many others (especially @aaronfr) have already expressed ideas similar to what I would have said, so I'm not sure it's even necessary. I will say that I think you've done a great job of responding to comments made in this thread and that the tone of your posts has improved dramatically (I see you've even gone back and toned down a post using the edit function) from when we used to spar on the forums. I know that was something you said you'd be working on, so kudos for that.

Just one thing I would like to point out: Islamophobia can be demonstrably shown to exist. You can see ample evidence of it in the NYPD's illegal surveillance of the entire Muslim community in the NY/NJ metropolitan area and the hysteric outcry that accompanies the building of new mosques in many U.S. states. I understand why you yourself would not want to be labeled an Islamophobe as you've taken great pains to explain your problem is with the religious texts and teachings and not people who happen to be Muslim. But certainly, I think you've recognized that, for example, Sam Harris advocating racial profiling is irrational and not a logical extension of his arguments against Islam's teachings.

Can we not agree then that Islamophobia--defined as an irrational fear of or hatred of Muslims simply because they subscribe to Islam--does in fact exist? I think it's difficult to maintain the position that it doesn't exist in the face of the discrimination many Muslims face in some Western countries.

No one said you can't criticize Islam. But you might want to get your facts straight before you do: female genital mutilation is a tribal custom that predates Islam but has been integrated into the religion in some regions of the world (predominately Africa) and is practiced by both Muslims and non-Muslims alike (look it up on wiki page, it's extremely well documented).

Also, you asked for evidence of Islamophobia? You need look no further than the hysteria in the U.S. over building new mosques or the NYPD's unwarranted surveillance (including wiretapping and undercover agents) for years of the entire Muslim community across the NY/NJ area. They caught zero terrorists during their investigation, BTW, while wasting untold millions in taxpaper dollars in the process.

The job of police was originally instituted to enforce the laws that protected the rich from the poor. This incidentally involved helping poor people too, and in a lot of places, the job evolved into a good-guy authority figure.

But at its core, the job has never required more than protecting the powerful from the rest. I'm surprised that the NYPD would take that tack publicly, but I guess they figure it's better to be honest than face a large lawsuit. Money talks.

I have my share of NYPD stories...

This was a 9/11 charity event to benefit NYPD and NYFD survivors.

"Grant suffered a temporarily dislocated jaw and a lacerated tongue that required 26 stitches. Butler was arrested and charged with aggravated assault. Butler was later convicted and served four months at Riker's Island detention facility." -WP

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Whaddya mean? You think a bunch of rural terrorists with weapons from WWII took out two humongous buildings that each fell the exact same way? Not likely. But, I digress I don't really want to talk about nine eleven.


ehem nine eleven

Come on man, you're better than that.



So say the Government, namely Bush did do 9/11 to justify an attack on Iraq or Afganistan. Why make the terrorists be Saudis? They're one of our greatest allies in the reason. Fuck make them Iraqis, it just doesn't make any damn sense.

>> ^shagen454:

Whaddya mean? You think a bunch of rural terrorists with weapons from WWII took out two humongous buildings that each fell the exact same way? Not likely. But, I digress I don't really want to talk about nine eleven.

ehem nine eleven
Come on man, you're better than that.


You're derailing this shit, take it to PMs.

>> ^shagen454:

ehem nine eleven


Come on man, you're better than that.

This is another piece of evidence towards proving that the NYPD is simply a criminal organization with public funding. It's absolutely stupid that it's tolerated, being a Police Officer should be something of pride in the community. Cops are looked at terribly nowadays, I fear them more than I fear anyone else really.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'NYPD, stop and frisk, civil right violations, police excess' to 'NYPD, stop and frisk, civil right violations, police excess, nyc, abuse, power, racist' - edited by Krupo

I'm watching this (anti-police) video and the ad banner up top is an advertisement that reads, "Join The NYPD!"

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