scheherazade says... Hmm, I partly agree. Surely, what goes around comes around. Kids are people, too. You do some shit to poke your kids in the feels, you'll have to live with the consequences. However, I don't see the debt (owe). People are free to make their own choices regarding their own affairs, and their personal part of any relationship with others. People are free to dislike other people's choices. Happiness/contentment is not a requirement, and no one else has to go out of their way to make whoever else happy. -scheherazade newtboy said: I would agree.....had they not allowed my brother to do all those dangerous things on their dime in front of me, but then denied me the opportunity to do them, even on my own dime. Their favorite line used to deny me fair treatment was "we made that mistake with your brother, we aren't making it again with you." They never once used that line on him, nor did they ever change the behavior they called a "mistake". So I disagree. Parents owe their children love, honesty, and fairness (and food and shelter). Failing that, they should expect some well deserved bitterness later.