You are correct. 😂
The rapist Trump has used over $55 million of campaign donations for his own legal woes, he pays his family $60k per minute from campaign donations to scream on stage, he claims he pays hundreds of thousands of dollars from political donations for Melania’s hair, he took donations from Russians and Ukrainian separatists, his daughter took tens of millions from the Chinese to curry favor during trade talks, his son took two BILLION from Saudis for selling state secrets and looking the other way as they murdered American journalists, he stole from his charity for disabled veterans and is barred from participating in any charity now, he ran a fraudulent school, he paid millions for redlining at his properties, Jr met Russians to trade favors for dirt on Clinton. AND DON’T FORGET HE’S OFFICIALLY A RAPIST! The rapist Trump’s family are a megalomaniac crime family with a delusional cult funding them.

They are unlike Biden or BLM that both produce results for the small donations they receive from American citizens. I know of no accusation of Joe using campaign funds for personal or family expenditures….Trump does it as a matter of course.

Not just excuses, grift, baseless accusations, and moaning for billions in foreign bribes, but results like major economic recovery/boom and actual meaningful police reform for an alleged few million or less in American dollars (or in Joe’s case, for a small salary).

The Trumps sold America to China and the Saudis.

This is verifiable fact.

You only have baseless just stupid accusations against Biden, like the brainless accusation that Hunter took billions from China….where is it then? Where’s the paper trail? The evidence? Even the “whistleblowers” had absolutely nothing to say that helped impugn either Biden. Not a single thing found in years besides tax evasion, Trump’s favorite crime besides maybe rape…no banking trail, no bribery, no espionage, no election fraud, no sedition, no rights violations, nor a single rape between them either! 😂

Such delusion…. you know all this, but still pretend the rapist Trump isn’t a criminal and Dark Brandon is. 😂 😂 😂 How’s that working out?

Intolerance is a virtue.

With all love and respect to my friends in this thread, I wasn't joking and I don't apologise. Barack Obama is a subhuman nigger and he should be strung up to die like a nigger.

When you participate in the sort of widespread oppression and generalised evil that he has, both as an individual and a member of an unabashedly fascist government; when you, say, lock free people in cages because you don't approve of the things they choose to put in their own bodies; when you commit those crimes against humanity, you lose any claim you might have had to be considered a part of our species.

So he's a nigger - as you would expect him to be, plebiscite systems won't elect human beings while humanity is in the extreme minority in every country in the world.

The fact that you're all less concerned with the hundreds of thousands of real lives this megalomaniacal nazi turd-demon has destroyed (what a guy) than you are with a little name-calling, speaks to the total moral degeneracy of today's faux-progressive orthodoxy.

Wait...you don't vote for corruption, but you'll vote for Trump? That does not compute. Trump has been involved in 3500 lawsuits over the last decades and often doesn't pay his bills, so often he had to address it and actually said 'if I don't think you did a good job, I don't pay'...that's theft of services, a crime of moral turpitude. You think he doesn't have experience placing obstacles to his adversaries? That's an insane hypothesis, he's shown thousands of times that he does know, and he wrote a book about it. EDIT: In fact, it seems that, in large part, he's made his money by extortion, making it far more difficult and expensive to fight him than it is to just let him rip you off and walk away.
He has clearly and repeatedly said HE is one of the people that paid off politicians to make laws that favor him (he said this in an effort to paint Clinton as corrupt for taking his money). HE is the ROOT of corruption in Washington....how on earth can you convince yourself he's not corrupt.

Trump will absolutely make an unfair system worse. He's a megalomaniac, and will do everything in his power, legal or not, to grab as much power as possible and put it into the hands of the president with no thought to what that does after he's out of office, and no one will stand up to him in any meaningful way out of fear of certain disproportionate reprisal.

Yes, maybe eventually the damage he does could be fixed, but that damage is FAR worse than you seem to imagine. The rest of the world sees him as a completely unstable, unpredictable person, and if he's the president, there's absolutely no question that world markets would fail due to that uncertainty, causing another world recession at best just from his election without a single act. As was mentioned, our standing on the world stage will also be destroyed, as it would be a clear signal to the world that America is not a partner, but an adversary to cooperation and reason.

Most non republicans would certainly disagree with your description of Scalia's record, as would many republicans. Some progressive laws got past him, yes, but the more progressive ones were usually stymied by him for completely insane reasons.

True, a smart corrupt person could do more damage than an upstanding idiot, but a bullying corrupt idiot with power can do the most damage of all without even trying...and holy shit are we all doomed if he gets upset and tries to do damage.

OK...I read it as "Hillary won" the primary election, or pledged delegate votes needed as well as more than enough unpledged delegates pledges, which she did, but not the nomination since he went on to say it was possible she wouldn't get it if, say, she died or dropped out before the convention.

I agree it would be smart for them to re-think their strategy and go with a better candidate to beat Trump if that's the main goal, and I'm afraid that Clinton is unpopular, secretive, and such an easy target for attacks that she can easily lose to a megalomaniacal demagogue, but I also see it would alienate >1/2 of democrats that want Hillary and make the party look terribly undemocratic if they did that...which they may be, but they sure don't want to prove that they are.

For a megalomaniac worth 8 Billion he sure know how to get things done.
Political incorrectness be damned. Refreshing.

The only good thing about him is that he would not be bought by K street.

Internet communication is only for megalomaniacs. Join in on the discussion! Prove your insane desire to be intellectually superior!!

Colbert is awesome because he gets to be in character and do ridiculous things like run for president or just be an insensitive megalomaniac.

I have no doubt that he will be good once he takes over for Letterman, but I cringe to think about him having to make smalltalk about someone's new action movie.

Classic example of "gods love."

Knock, knock!
"Who's there?"
"God, let me in."
"Why, What do you want?"
"I've come to save you."
"Save me from what?"
"From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in."

In the 21st century no sane, rational, non-brainwashed, free thinking intelligent human, could believe in the vainglorious, megalomaniacal, vindictive "god" presented by ANY religion. But, of course, the religious are none of these things. They are like children, frightened of the bogey man, who believe that if they worship, bow and prostrate themselves, they will live forever in an eternity of, well, er, worship. Jeez, what a sad bunch. The frightening thing, is that these "believers" are intent on dragging us all down with them.

It's almost as if he doesn't have journalist killed that are critical of his rule.

Who wouldn't trust the word of a homophobic, misogynistic, megalomaniac, sociopath.

>> ^A10anis:

Only the last 6 commandments have any relevance at all (Oh, and the 10th prohibits the coveting of thy neighbours donkey and servants..hmm). The first 4 are are the ranting edicts of an egotistical, vain, megalomaniac. Any reasonably intelligent person could produce 10 better rules to live by.


I'm still waiting for Atheists/Agnostics to come up with their own 10 Commandments. It should be ridiculously simple to create 10 basic rules for living a sane and helpful life that directly challenges solipsism and the idea that you need a god to have morality.

1. Don't be self-centered, you are not the only one trying to make it in the universe.
2. You can't succeed alone. Everyone needs help from time to time.
3. You can accomplish more with help than you can alone, so treat people with respect and respect will be given to you.

of course you could probably condense that down into one rule.

Don't kill and don't steal are still valid rules. Nothing wrong with coveting as long as it doesn't lead to killing and stealing. Coveting is the basis for capitalism after all I'm jealous of the shit you have so not only am I going to do what it takes to get the same things, I'm going to get more..regardless of whether or not I need it.

Only the last 6 commandments have any relevance at all (Oh, and the 10th prohibits the coveting of thy neighbours donkey and servants..hmm). The first 4 are are the ranting edicts of an egotistical, vain, megalomaniac. Any reasonably intelligent person could produce 10 better rules to live by.

A relationship is something that develops over time. God doesn't exist in a time. God knew exactly what would happen down to the movement of every quantum particle when he created the universe. We're like a book on a shelf to him, and all times and places in the universe are equally accessible to him. He already knows everything, and to him we are unborn, living and dead. A relationship like that doesn't make sense.

It's impossible for us to say how God perceives His Creation (beyond what He told us). What we do know is that the second person of the Trinity entered time and became a man, and lived 33 years here on Earth. The Father was certainly capable of loving His Son while He was a man, and interacting with Him in this temporal reality. Therefore God is certainly capable of having meaningful relationships with His creatures as well. It says that in Him we live and move and have our being, meaning, that we are intimately connected to God at all times. I would further say that we have no actual idea of what time is, or how it relates to eternal things. What we do know is that it is always 'now'. I have a feeling that the 'now' moment and eternity relate in some way.

Also, why would God create the universe? A relationship involves development and fulfilment on both sides. How is it possible for a perfect being to desire anything or be unfulfilled in any way? Was he lonely and lacked companionship? Was he bored and lacked amusement? Is he a megalomaniac who lacked worshippers? No. God is perfect, and therefore cannot lack anything, and therefore cannot be unfulfilled in any way, and therefore cannot have desires. Nothing we do can fulfil God, unless God is unfulfilled, and therefore requiring something, and therefore imperfect.

God had perfect love before He Created anything, so He did not create from a lack; He created it out of the abundence of His love.

It also doesn't make sense that God could have any emotional reactions to anything we do for a couple more reasons. First, he is immutable, unchanging. So not only could we never fulfil God, we couldn't have any effect on him whatsoever, including changing his mood or causing him to make a judgement or anything. That's the definition of immutable. A relationship with him would do nothing to him, just like talking to a rock might make a person feel good, but not affect the rock in any way. The second reason is that if God is at all times, then time doesn't flow in a straight line for him, and therefore causality doesn't exist at all. So, our actions cannot have any effect on God's attitude or mood or judgements or anything

His immutability relates to His essential nature, His perfect goodness. His character doesn't change. He is Holy and Just and always will be. This doesn't mean that God cannot have a novel thought or feel anything. Jesus wept, for instance. If you took this bizzare idea of immutability to its logical conclusion, God would be frozen in place and could not do anything at all. Clearly an omnipotent being is essentially unrestricted in His actions. The problem here is we are limited temporal beings trying to imagine what an unlimited eternal being is like. The distance between us and God is far greater than the distance between us and bacteria. This isn't to pass it off as "God is mysterious", because as I've pointed out, your definitions are inconsistant with what we do know. But you have to admit that there is an essential barrier to understanding what it is like to be God, simply because of our finite and subjective nature. How does a being who was born understand eternity? He can't, at least, not without an eternal being explaining it to him.

First you say, "Ian obviously feels threatened by Gods judgement on his lifestyle".

Then you say, "Christians are under a New Covenant and don't follow those laws".

Which is it? Is being gay against the bible, or is it not against the bible?

It was not just a prohibition for israel, it is also for Christians, as detailed in Romans 1:18-32


>> ^messenger:
@shinyblurry
A relationship is something that develops over time. God doesn't exist in a time. God knew exactly what would happen down to the movement of every quantum particle when he created the universe. We're like a book on a shelf to him, and all times and places in the universe are equally accessible to him. He already knows everything, and to him we are unborn, living and dead. A relationship like that doesn't make sense.
Also, why would God create the universe? A relationship involves development and fulfilment on both sides. How is it possible for a perfect being to desire anything or be unfulfilled in any way? Was he lonely and lacked companionship? Was he bored and lacked amusement? Is he a megalomaniac who lacked worshippers? No. God is perfect, and therefore cannot lack anything, and therefore cannot be unfulfilled in any way, and therefore cannot have desires. Nothing we do can fulfil God, unless God is unfulfilled, and therefore requiring something, and therefore imperfect.
It also doesn't make sense that God could have any emotional reactions to anything we do for a couple more reasons. First, he is immutable, unchanging. So not only could we never fulfil God, we couldn't have any effect on him whatsoever, including changing his mood or causing him to make a judgement or anything. That's the definition of immutable. A relationship with him would do nothing to him, just like talking to a rock might make a person feel good, but not affect the rock in any way. The second reason is that if God is at all times, then time doesn't flow in a straight line for him, and therefore causality doesn't exist at all. So, our actions cannot have any effect on God's attitude or mood or judgements or anything.
So, can you explain how God can be perfect, yet be unfulfilled and have desires?

@shinyblurry

A relationship is something that develops over time. God doesn't exist in a time. God knew exactly what would happen down to the movement of every quantum particle when he created the universe. We're like a book on a shelf to him, and all times and places in the universe are equally accessible to him. He already knows everything, and to him we are unborn, living and dead. A relationship like that doesn't make sense.

Also, why would God create the universe? A relationship involves development and fulfilment on both sides. How is it possible for a perfect being to desire anything or be unfulfilled in any way? Was he lonely and lacked companionship? Was he bored and lacked amusement? Is he a megalomaniac who lacked worshippers? No. God is perfect, and therefore cannot lack anything, and therefore cannot be unfulfilled in any way, and therefore cannot have desires. Nothing we do can fulfil God, unless God is unfulfilled, and therefore requiring something, and therefore imperfect.

It also doesn't make sense that God could have any emotional reactions to anything we do for a couple more reasons. First, he is immutable, unchanging. So not only could we never fulfil God, we couldn't have any effect on him whatsoever, including changing his mood or causing him to make a judgement or anything. That's the definition of immutable. A relationship with him would do nothing to him, just like talking to a rock might make a person feel good, but not affect the rock in any way. The second reason is that if God is at all times, then time doesn't flow in a straight line for him, and therefore causality doesn't exist at all. So, our actions cannot have any effect on God's attitude or mood or judgements or anything.

So, can you explain how God can be perfect, yet be unfulfilled and have desires?

>> ^garmachi:

It terrifies me that someone like this could even be considered for any leadership position.


yeah totally! it looks like the majority of Republican candidates are megalomaniacs, who think god speaks directly to them.
Unfortunately, much of america also thinks god speaks to them...
and much of the world thinks god talks to them also. directly, or through a representative (priest), or a book.
uhh...houston we have a problem.

and that problem is psychological...a world-wide mass delusion rooted in self-worship.

but it's changing fast!
empathy is the new cool!

People without good critical thinking skills can be misled to do stupid and harmful things (like voting for prop . Faith is synonymous with lack of critical thinking. Faith is a problem no matter how benign some of its practitioners currently are because they can more easily be misled by clergy, politicians, and hucksters.

Stupid people do stupid things, whether they are theists or atheists. Faith has nothing to do with it, and your idea that believing in a higher power is a suspension of critical thinking shows that you are intellectually satisfied with a stereotypical and superficial analysis, which itself shows a lack of critical thinking.

With over 90 percent of the world having some kind of faith in a higher power, and 93 percent of this country, you must think you're pretty darn special, considering that you must believe that the vast majority of people on this planet, and those who came before them, are inferior to you. Yet, you have more faith than anyone else. Here is a smart person to tell you about it:

atheism requires the greatest faith, as it demands that ones limited store of human knowledge is sufficient to exclude the possibility of God.

francis collins human genome project

Christian theology is bullshit because the problem of evil is insurmountable.

You apparently don't know the difference between the logical problem of evil and the evidential problem of evil. They are separate issues.



Malaria was not created by free will. If there were a benevolent all-powerful creator, he would not have allowed Malaria to exist.

What about poisonous mushrooms? Should He allow those? Someone might eat one. Should He have allowed us to invent electricity, since people have been electrocuted? How about hang nails? Long lines at the grocery store?

Sin fucked up the world? Well, the creator would have had to create the magic that would cause the world to become fucked up when sin occurred. Malaria is necessary for the greater good?

Man screwed up the world. Sickness, disease and death are the consequences of sin entering into the world through man. None of it was necessary, but God is still capable of using it to achieve a greater good.

You just have a very imbalanced view here. You blame God for the bad but fail to notice the good. If there is anyone to blame for scourge of Malaria today, it is the apathy of human beings:

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/preventive-care/malaria-prevention.htm

That makes your supposed creator about as 'benevolent' as Hitler who thought gassing Jews was necessary for the greater good. The god of the old testament is a genocidal megalomaniac, exactly like Hitler.

Hitler didn't send his son to die on a cross for your sins. God has His hand extended to you to pull you out of the fire at any time, but it's on you to reach out for it.

>> ^jwray:

People without good critical thinking skills can be misled to do stupid and harmful things (like voting for prop . Faith is synonymous with lack of critical thinking. Faith is a problem no matter how benign some of its practitioners currently are because they can more easily be misled by clergy, politicians, and hucksters.
Christian theology is bullshit because the problem of evil is insurmountable.
Malaria was not created by free will. If there were a benevolent all-powerful creator, he would not have allowed Malaria to exist. Sin fucked up the world? Well, the creator would have had to create the magic that would cause the world to become fucked up when sin occurred. Malaria is necessary for the greater good? That makes your supposed creator about as 'benevolent' as Hitler who thought gassing Jews was necessary for the greater good. The god of the old testament is a genocidal megalomaniac, exactly like Hitler.
It is pretty fucked up to believe in / worship this bloodthirsty megalomaniac without any evidence that he even exists.
Yes, church gives you a sense of community. That's fine. I still even go to a church event once in a blue moon to catch up with some old friends from 10 years of attending the same small Sunday school classes. But for fuck's sake, there are other ways to meet people and serve your community than through glorifying a fictional genocidal tyrant who wouldn't even deserve it if the bible were true.