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12 Monkeys - The TV Series - Official Trailer

12 Monkeys - The TV Series - Official Trailer

Gendered Marketing

ChaosEngine says...

Well, first of all, I said "most", not all. Second, I'm not making any value judgements, simply stating my experience. Most women I know spend varying amounts of money on products designed to keep their skin soft and hair free etc.

Who doesn't want to be perceived as competent? Plenty of people. I know lots of women who profess proudly to not being able to change a tyre. To be fair, I also know plenty of women who are extremely competent, but I know almost no men who would admit to not knowing how to change a tyre.

Again, I'm talking in broad generalisations, and that's how marketing works. I'm not saying women can't be tough or competent or that men can't have soft skin, but that is not the norm and marketing is targetted at a wide demographic (unless you are specifically marketing to a nice audience).

As to the question of whether these distinctions are ingrained or not, it's largely irrelevant. It's not about some genetic marker that makes men want to smell like trees and women smell like flowers, it's about centuries of built-up cultural aesthetics. I don't really have to explain where this comes from, do I?

Again, I'm not saying this is right, merely that there are reasons that marketers do this. Where I have a problem is when it becomes exclusionist. When girls are told they can't play with "boys toys", I say screw that.

Jinx said:

Ok. Women want to be perceived as soft (they do? - I'd be careful with that generalisation, your straying into damsel territory there) and feminine (Surprise! ...but what is feminine? - is it soft and pink or something else?). And who doesn't want to be seen as competent and why should it be seen as a masculine trait?

Wait, Let me guess the guys. Do most guys want to be perceived as..masculine...and...*insert positive gender role stereotype here!*.

Oh well, I was close I guess.

So liek. Yes. Your average guy or gal wants to fit into their associated gender role, or gender aesthetic if you like. But it seems to me there is sort of an element of carts before horses here. Are those gender aesthetics a preexisting difference between the sexes or is it an arbitrary divider created by our society through cynical marketing campaigns that have exploited our desire to "belong" to make more money?

Aside from that, what exactly makes a fragrance "tough" or "competent"? I've never thought to describe a smell as competent in all my life. It's all as arbitrary as pink for girls, blue for boys and...pens for women.

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doogle says...

Those boards aren't actually printed on.

Camera took video of the guy with chroma key cardboard (with location markers). At the end took a photo without said guy, mapped it to the boards. Edited to the surfaces in reverse.

Not bad.

Tailgating is bad, okay!

newtboy says...

Incorrect, that's not a fish eye camera.
He's more than one car length behind, but not much more than 2, granted, until the Peugeot stops, then he gets closer. At the beginning, he's more than one full road marker behind. Technically perhaps that's still tailgating, but it's considered perfectly normal driving in traffic (in the US anyway)...if you leave that much room in a city, you'll be cut off constantly and never move.
Even if he was tailgating, the proper course of action is to get out of the fast lane if you are slower traffic, not have a tantrum and stop on the freeway in the fast lane causing a likely deadly accident...and you get what you get when you take the law into your own hands. I hope the passenger also sues the Peugeot driver....and he lost his license for at least an extended period if not permanantly.

Payback said:

The fisheye camera makes it look like he's got any room, but he's about one car length away from the Peugeot, at freeway speed. That's tailgating.

Tailgating is bad, okay!

coolhund says...

Are you kidding me? That was massive tail gating. Just because hecould stop in time (because the Peugeot braked very slowly), doesnt mean it wasnt. Check the road markers. Normally at those speeds you need to be able to completely count 22, 23 (say it out loud) from when one marker passes the car in front of you until it arrives at your car. Here you cant even complete 22 half way before the marker reached his car.

dannym3141 said:

Where exactly is tailgating involved? I see a Peugeot stopping in the middle of the road for no reason causing a major hazard whilst another car (not watching the road) smashed into the back of the recording car.

Edit: Guy is definitely not tailgating the Peugeot. Firstly the guy is easily able to see the brake lights (and he can see over the Peugeot from his cabin) and slows down safely when the Peugeot stops. There's more than a car's distance between them, from the start right down to the impact. I have a 40 min drive to university every day and you'd be lucky to get that much room behind you from someone with a baby on board. That's not counting the fact that the Puegeot is abusing the overtaking lane from the outset.

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newtboy says...

They often do the events at volcanic quarries or volcanoes, so the landings are usually fairly soft (not always).
It's often the case that no one 'makes it' (to 'make it' you have to stop all the way at the top past the last markers and often turn around and drive back down, 3:35 didn't stop or even pass the markers), so they measure who made it the farthest up.

grinter said:

They should put shocks on the roofs of these things, so the impact isn't so severe when they, inevitably, roll.

..also, the truck at 3:35 totally made it... and then drove back off the cliff. I hope he "won".

Harrowing Footage of LGBT Beaten and Humiliated in Russia

chingalera says...

Saw this in the front page of YT and wanted to bury every one of those skinhead Russian fucks, toss em into a mass grave with a marker for all to read-Then go find the parents who made them, drag their asses into the street, beat the shit outta them, too. Completely sick and twisted.

That he cops do nothing and Putin sits by and allows it??- He's a piece of shit.

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chingalera says...

@Sotto_The issue is the power and influence one corporation has over the world's food supply and those who would use their influence in the Department of Agriculture and the Supreme court to implement sweeping legislation or hinder the free will of the small, medium, large or other farmers who would have nothing to do with Monsanto's seeds or who wish only to use sumbunall of their products, not whether a farmer is given their rice for free in an ethical fashion to grow some proprietary rice (ever try to grow rice? S'pretty dependent on climate and seasons, rainfall and other environmental conditions, not to mention the hectares it requires to cultivate) as opposed to say leafy greens of all kinds, sweet potatoes, squash, all of which are much more easily cultivated AND, have shorter seed to fruit times as well as requiring much less space AND, are chock-full of Vitamin A.
We don't even mention here Paprika, Red Pepper, Cayenne, Chili Powder, which are WAY higher in Vitamin A and pretty much grow like weeds when cultivated by morons.

Shaky and hollow point your study cited as well, to support what is obviously a fishy prospect providing this option to poorer countries when you consider the back-door dealing that a corporation like M practices and their track-record of driving small farmers out of business with endless litigation and an army of lah-yahs, investigators, all petty thugs and criminals on their payroll.

A no-brainer? Yeah, if you spout the party-line and din't use your brain but instead cited an "official' study from a 'recognized', 'expert's' journal.

Again, loaded language in your closing with the assumption that most opponents and vocal activists of GMO crops are science deniers. Broad, brush-strokes my friend.
Labels.

I for one want these motherfucker's labs under extreme scrutiny and their science tested and re-tested by those not on their payrolls or whose interests do not include stocks in their concerns. I also want heirloom seeds, regardless of yields, whose fruits produce fertile seeds.

MOST GMO crop's fruited seeds are as sterile as your argument, the genetic markers tweaked similarly to insure that the market on common-sense and centuries-honored methods be cornered and rendered inadequate.

Remembering Some Of the Most Notorious Videosift Shills (History Talk Post)

enoch says...

@mintbbb
hey hey stranger!
i dont know why you second guess yourself in regards to how you are perceived based on peoples subjective and highly irrational understandings.

humans...a curious lot.

you are a total sweetie.you are just super sensitive and some people never really understood that about you.
your husband is an idealist.
thats not a bad thing,in fact that can be a very good thing.

we NEED people to be dreamers and your husband is a dreamer and sometimes that can be frustrating if you are in an argument with him (which i have been).

i didnt always agree with him but i always liked him.

some here on the sift have questioned my friendship with @chingalera.
they didnt understand.
i seemed to be so much more approachable and less acidic in my commentary.
so how could i align myself with such a trollish sifter?

the answer is simply because i get him.
we BOTH are idealists.
just like your husband.
the difference lies in that both ching and i battle,on a daily basis,the rising tide of cynicism.

a cynicism that was born out of being beaten,imprisoned,lied to,betrayed and many times by the very people and/or institutions that we once were idealistic about.

disillusion is a real motherfucker.

yet we still retain that idealism.
we both are humanists.
we care about people.

so everything we do or say is with that at its heart.
so when ching is berating somebody,they may perceive that as an attack.
and it is but it is NOT an attack on them,personally,but rather an attack on their media-induced mythology.
or maybe a person is suffering a severe case of myopia and needs to be shaken out of their apathetic dystopia.

but its always,and i mean ALWAYS to get someone to look at a situation with a different perspective or challenge a belief.
to get people to actually think.
to not just give in to authority but to realize ALL authority is illegitimate until proven otherwise.

i tend to use less shocking and confrontational vernacular than ching does.so that may explain peoples confusion why i consider him a friend.

but if you understood his intent,the words he uses would have less of an emotional impact.

note* by my commentary i am not excusing,condoning nor dismissing chings very real outbursts that actually did hurt some feelings.
but i also know that when people get their feelings hurt they sometimes lash out (and i also suspect that those outbursts were in conjunction with copious amounts of booze).

passionate people are just as sensitive as the next and can/will retaliate in kind when hurt.i know i have.

which brings me to the actual point at hand (sorry..i tend to rant).

why would we remove/negate anything from the archives?
the organic growth and procession of a community should be held intact.
warts and all.
to remove,edit or scrub clean serves nothing,except to maybe repeat past indiscretions.

we never use the ignore button.
nor the sarcasm or jokingly.
so why would we erase the communities past dealings?
be they enlightening or incredibly droll?
its who we were and gives us all a marker where we may be going.

just a thought.

If The Lion King Were Scientifically Accurate

Jupiter Ascending -- new film from Andy and Lana Wachowski

shatterdrose says...

Eh, and I'll stick to being a human being who recognizes someone else's desires and pains. Not to mention, genetically speaking, there will be a lot of markers and chemical compositions indicating that she should in fact be calling herself a she. But that's just biologically speaking.

ANYWAY, the trailer looks pretty cool. I don't mind a mixture of sci-fi and fantasy. Who says just because you have magic that the non-magical people can't develop technology?

shang said:

Genetically they are, hormones and wigs do not change gender.

In a medical scenario and physically he's still a brother. And I stick to genetics :-)

Political correct movement that seeks to redefine everything should be shunned, and done away with

World War Two Movie Making Gone Wrong

ChaosEngine says...

You mean typical ROAD biker.

My experience has been that mountain bikers (who generally view being on the road as a necessary evil to get to a trail) are careful and courteous.

The lycra brigade, OTOH, all think they're in the fucking tour de france and feel the need to practice riding in a peloton. What especially annoys me is when there is a cycle lane and these idiots ride on the outside marker so that half their body is in traffic.

Darkhand said:

Typical biker not obeying any rules

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