Oh man, that sucks. Get better, eh? The discussion can wait.

In reply to this comment by GeeSussFreeK:
I plan to respond to your well thought out reply on AI, but it shall have to wait till my health improves, I managed to catch the pork flu.

You're arguing wait times, I'm arguing price. We both agree that those in need get treated right away. I'm saying that our system is better because we don't get hammered on cost, and we don't have to go through insurance companies. Most Canadians do have private insurance, to help cover dental and pharmaceuticals. Canadians pay less for health care than Americans do. Do we have wait times? Yes, but it's for stuff that can wait, and it's either not that long, or they plan for it. But, since we both acknowledge that people in dire straights get cared for, then your wait times argument has a lot of it's power taken away.

Does it have problems, yes. But, it's still better than the American system, because everyone gets great health care, that everyone pays for, together, and no one goes broke over health costs. Can America say the same?

They are not denied care. They are not thrown in the street and told, 'sorry'. They get the care they need the same way you do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KpSLBCenk

I couldn't find the sift for it.

In the U.S., patients on Medicaid, the low-income government programs, can wait three months or more to see specialists. Because Medicaid payments are low, some have claimed that some doctors do not want to see Medicaid patients.

This is why people don't like what Obama's administration is pushing. Obama's plan is essentially a nationalization of the Medicare program, and your own reference shows that the current 'public' option in the US is inferior to the private one. That said, everyone is still getting treated. This proves that (A) private care is superior and (B) everyone in American (insured or not) is getting covered but (like Canada) service in the 'public option' is much slower.

For example, 21% of Canadian hospital administrators, but less than 1% of American administrators, said that it would take over three weeks to do a biopsy for possible breast cancer on a 50-year-old woman; 50% of Canadian administrators versus none of their American counterparts said that it would take over six months for a 65-year-old to undergo a routine hip replacement surgery.

This gives me no desire to move to a Canadian system where services are routinely delayed/denied. Regardles, the point is that there is no reason to rush this bad law through without due deliberation and testing. A public option COULD be OK. But there is not a lot of evidence that 'public' health care results in 'better' or 'more' health care. In fact, there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

That's the biggest misconception that all you non-Americans need to get your facts straight about. Canadians & Europeans look down their noses and say, "Oh how awful that you evil American's don't 'cover' all your people..." Bullcrap. There is a difference between being 'covered' and being TREATED. I would venture to say that the end result of the evil American system is that far more people are TREATED than in the precious socialized countries where everyone is 'covered' but is routinely denied treatment. I'd rather have a system where 42 million people weren't 'covered', but almost everyone was being treated as opposed to a system where everyone was 'covered' but that people are not treated.


Via Wiki

One complaint about both the U.S. and Canadian health care systems is waiting times, whether for a specialist, major elective surgery, such as hip replacement, or specialized treatments, such as radiation for breast cancer. Wait times in each country are affected by various factors. In the United States, access to health care is primarily determined by whether a person has access to funding to pay for treatment and by the availability of services in the area and by willingness of the provider to deliver service at the price set by the insurer. In Canada the wait time is set according the availability of services in the area and by the relative need of the person needing treatment.

A report published by Health Canada in 2008 included statistics on self-reported wait times for diagnostic services.[47] The median wait time for diagnostic services such as MRI and CAT scans is two weeks with 89.5% waiting less than 3 months.[47][48] The median wait time to see a special physician is a little over four weeks with 86.4% waiting less then 3 months. [47][49] The median wait time for surgery is a little over four weeks with 82.2% waiting less than 3 months. [47] [50] In the U.S., patients on Medicaid, the low-income government programs, can wait three months or more to see specialists. Because Medicaid payments are low, some have claimed that some doctors do not want to see Medicaid patients. For example, in Benton Harbor, Michigan, specialists agreed to spend one afternoon every week or two at a Medicaid clinic, which meant that Medicaid patients had to make appointments not at the doctor's office, but at the clinic, where appointments had to be booked months in advance.[51]

In Canada, waiting is prioritized by patient according to relative urgency, with urgent patients receiving immediate access and the least urgent waiting longer. [52] Studies by the Commonwealth Fund found that 42% of Canadians waited 2 hours or more in the emergency room, vs. 29% in the U.S.; 57% waited 4 weeks or more to see a specialist, vs. 23% in the U.S., but Canadians had more chances of getting medical attention at nights, or on weekends and holidays than their American neighbors without the need to visit an ER (54% compared to 61%).[53] However, statistics from the free market think tank Fraser Institute in 2008 indicate that the average wait time between the time when a general practitioner refers a patient for care and the receipt of treatment was almost four and a half months in 2008, roughly double what it had been 15 years before.[54]

A 2003 survey of hospital administrators conducted in Canada, the U.S., and three other countries found dissatisfaction with both the U.S. and Canadian systems. For example, 21% of Canadian hospital administrators, but less than 1% of American administrators, said that it would take over three weeks to do a biopsy for possible breast cancer on a 50-year-old woman; 50% of Canadian administrators versus none of their American counterparts said that it would take over six months for a 65-year-old to undergo a routine hip replacement surgery. However, U.S. administrators were the most negative about their country's health care system. Hospital executives in all five countries expressed concerns about staffing shortages and emergency department waiting times and quality.[55][56]

In a letter to the Wall Street Journal, the President and CEO of University Health Network, Toronto, said that Michael Moore's film Sicko "exaggerated the performance of the Canadian health system — there is no doubt that too many patients still stay in our emergency departments waiting for admission to scarce hospital beds." However, "Canadians spend about 55% of what Americans spend on health care and have longer life expectancy, and lower infant mortality rates. Many Americans have access to quality health care. All Canadians have access to similar care at a considerably lower cost." There is "no question" that the lower cost has come at the cost of "restriction of supply with sub-optimal access to services," said Bell. A new approach is targeting waiting times, which are reported on public websites

>> ^blankfist:
Not always at fault if you rear end someone. In LA, if the driver of the other vehicle is intoxicated, he/she is automatically at fault of the moving violation whether or not they were the cause of the accident or not.
Pay close attention to what happens everytime a police officer is caught doing wrong. They put him on 'administrative leave' and 'launch an investigation'. Why can't cops ever be fired? And why do cops have to be the ones to investigate cops?


They put them on Administrative Leave in case the charges filed against them are A) True, so they can no longer do any harm, or B) False, in which case they can wait until proven innocent (If it's a hefty charge, odds are the city will gripe that the cop is still allowed on while the investigation is ongoing)

After the investigation is completed, they're either fired, or brought back on to their shift.

And the reason other cops do the investigating is because the pope isn't available on such short notice.

If she really loves him, then she can wait a few years, can't she. He's not going to be anywhere near emotionally mature enough to deal with what a 28 year old woman needs, no matter how grown up he is.

I can understand that she thinks she loves him, but she should go to jail for breaking the law. Love does not mean that you have to have sex, the end

oh and if youve had this pain for 2 years it can wait until monday morning when you can get into a primary care doctor for a mere fraction of the cost and time. seriously. its an EMERGENCY room.

well put; why don't we beat all suspects as long as it produces evidence? what weight can be given to intent in this case? and what can the intent be proven to be?

obama can wait on this, as it's not as pressing an issue as what to actually do with the present situations, but we need to know at some point (hopefully in time for justice)

>> ^nadabu:
>> ^Jaace:
And this is why I haven't dropped 10 bucks to go see this movie.

I don't ever drop 10 bucks on a movie. Academy theater down the street blows the big chains out of the water. Reasonable concessions (including pizza from Flying Pie next door, salads, good beer, etc), very comfy chairs, lax policies about bringing your own food, and even reasonably priced babysitting available upstairs (with RSVP). All for a whopping 3.50 per person. Yeah, it's a second run theater, but i can wait a few months for any movie to be able to see it there.


that sounds awesome. i hate the no outside food/drink policy at regular theaters.

>> ^Jaace:
And this is why I haven't dropped 10 bucks to go see this movie.


I don't ever drop 10 bucks on a movie. Academy theater down the street blows the big chains out of the water. Reasonable concessions (including pizza from Flying Pie next door, salads, good beer, etc), very comfy chairs, lax policies about bringing your own food, and even reasonably priced babysitting available upstairs (with RSVP). All for a whopping 3.50 per person. Yeah, it's a second run theater, but i can wait a few months for any movie to be able to see it there.

>> ^ChosenOne:
I'm just happy that the police chief was open to admit wrong doing.
Also (not that I condone what the office did) couldnt that girl immediately state the problem first if even profanely rather than call out the operator??
Like, "My f cking dad is 'on the floor, dying, having a heart attack, a seizure, any description that warrants an ambulance'."


My sentiment also. Just state the situation so the cop realize he has to call an ambulance (no excuses) and then you can resort to threat of suing or whatever.

The clash of egos can wait, not your father.

i'm sure you can wait 3 months until he takes over the tonight show

i'm just saying, if he was absolutely required, he wouldn't have been given an option. the war can wait until the new year, he'll still be here.

In reply to this comment by laura:
actually, he's probably still needed...
he got out of it.

In reply to this comment by Dignant_Pink:
hooray for going when needed, staying when not!

Stir Fry is my favorite dish to make.

I usually use:

1 lb Quartered baby carrots
A few handfuls of Snow peas (don't slice these)
1 can sliced Water chestnuts
1 each Orange, Red and Yellow bell peppers
8 oz. White mushrooms, sliced
A pound or so of Broccoli crowns

And I use Steak. I use fresh veggies, I just think they're better.
Start cooking your rice if you want long grain, or if you use instant you can wait.

Cut the veggies all up and put them in to their own bowls.
Cook the steak (sliced into whatever you want) in the wok with the stir-fry sauce. Once the steak is cooked, remove from the heat so it doesn't get over-cooked. Just make sure not to cook it too much because you'll be putting it back on the heat in a few minutes.

Pour in some sauce and the broccoli and carrots first. Once those cook for a few minutes, add the rest of the veggies in whatever proportions you want. I usually have too much stuff to fit in the wok, so that's why I keep them in separate bowls. Once they're sufficiently cooked, add the steak back in to heat it up.

Remember to periodically add the sauce as it's all cooking. Once it's all cooked, serve over a bed of rice.

For best results, eat with wooden chopsticks.

Oh. That's how it works. Well, I can wait