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"Stupidity of American Voter," critical to passing Obamacare

enoch says...

i have zero desire to see trance banned,that was never my intent for calling him out.
i simply wanted him to acknowledge his emotional response to a disagreement on a video he posted,
that the disagreement was with the video NOT him..personally.

i know this will only further derail this thread but i think it should be said.

a video is not a representation of the person.
being called out does not automatically translate to dislike of the person being called out.

a few weeks ago i did a little experiment with clickbait titles and @ChaosEngine totally called me on it.which gave me a nice chuckle and chaos was in the right but interestingly enough,the experiment worked.that video got 10 times the views it normally would in the same allotted time.

there was another video i posted where i didnt do my due diligence and it turned out to be a total fraud and @speechless (quite politely) called me out on that video and i was forced to apologize in shame.

does all this translate to chaos and speechless disliking me?
of course not.
i got busted using clickbait methodology and not doing my homework.while a tad embarrassing,being called out taught a lesson and a bit of humility.

point: i was the better for it.

trances targeted downvoting was an emotional response and he was behaving foolishly,but make no mistake..trance is no fool.he just took my analysis and criticism personally and responded emotionally.

no animals were harmed,all the puppies are still cute and kitty videos are more popular than ever.

human beings are sometimes irrational and emotional.trance should not be banned for behaving like a human being.

"Stupidity of American Voter," critical to passing Obamacare

VoodooV says...

You're just the king of the strawmen and trying to change the subject aren't you?

I never referred to Trance's video. That's not the issue. Once again (since you keep forgetting...deliberately?) the issue is the abuse of the voting system.

I haven't watched the video, nor have I voted on it. Also irrelevant to your censorship argument since even flagged videos are still viewable here. Regardless of how you spin it. There is no censorship and by extension (since you appear to have not understood my argument) freedom of speech on a private website. If the Owner of the site says you're out, you're out. You exist here on the owner's whim. You of all people should understand that.

So quit trying to derail...or gasp..we may have to start questioning your...integrity.

blankfist said:

What a pleasant correspondence. /s

And no one is saying "free speech" is a presiding factor here. In any event, I wasn't talking about "Trance" being right wing, I was bringing up a longer, more insidious, problem on this site. In fact, that point was for people who've been here much longer than you have.

And, yes, trying to get this video flagged is definitely censorship. You just don't like the content of the video. Admit it.

Last Week Tonight - Ferguson and Police Militarization

VoodooV says...

it's completely one sided dude. I haven't interacted with enoch in months, then out of nowhere, blammo. so again, this leads me to believe this his been boiling up in him for a while now. I find myself agreeing with Lantern that we should get back to the topic at hand instead of derailing.

If there was some sort of rivalry going on. No one informed me.

If you had used Bobtern in your example, it might be more accurate.

dag said:

Quote hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

@enoch and @VoodooV, I wish I could put you two together in a room, in a quiet cocktail party setting and let you talk to each other face to face. I *know* you wouldn't be this mean to each other.

It's the same old cliche about the dehumanising effect of the anonymous web - try and remember that we're all human beings at the other end of the line.

Last Week Tonight - Ferguson and Police Militarization

VoodooV says...

Are you just throwing out buzzwords to sound cool? You honestly aren't sounding very sane or rational at the moment dude. This sounds more like an emotional rant that's been boiling for months and you finally lost your cool. you keep spewing out words like hypocritical, no humanity, two dimensional yet no objective details.

just vague subjective terms and references to bodily functions.

I see you are taking up choggie's mantle of derailing sifts for your personal vendettas and nonsensical ravings, though.

enoch said:

@VoodooV

two dimensional thinking at its finest.

just because i point out that your commentary is tantamount to harassment does not automatically equal my condoning lantern or bobs oftentimes ridiculous commentary.

just because i am pointing out your hypocrisy does not mean i disagree with your actual comments.

if my fly was open or i had a huge booger hanging from my nose i hope you would pull me aside and point that out to me not stand from the bleachers,point and laugh.

your obsession with always being right has clouded your judgement in regards to what i am trying to point out to you.

is your ego so massive that the words of another should be so easily dismissed?each consecutive comment towards me is becoming more and more irrational and paranoid.

you mentioned calling me out on another thread.
yes you did.
which was a response to ME calling YOU out first.
and i smacked you down pretty handily.mainly due to the fact that you base your commentary towards me rife with presumption and conjecture.

which is exactly what you are doing here...again.

instead of hearing my words,you marginalize me in order to dismiss and ignore them.which is what all weak-minded people do in order to hold onto their own misconceptions.

bob does it.
lantern does it.
and so do you.

but never for a second deceive yourself into thinking i do not have the stones to say what needs to be said.your commentary reveals such an ignorance about who i am that i am literally laughing while i type this to you.

stop projecting voodoo.this persona you write about is not i,but rather you.

one last thing for your consideration (since we have totally hi-jacked this thread.sorry OP,please forgive).one of the main reasons i called you out was due to multiple private emails i received in regards to your current..and i quote one.."douchey attitude".

so the silence you hear is NOT due to agreement or consensus but rather many sifters fear confrontation.

i hold no such fear.

Jon Snow confronts Israeli Spokesperson on killing of kids

chingalera says...

What you do is shave all the males bald and tattoo a giant letter 'C' for cunt on their foreheads after dropping leaflets warning those who want to keep their disguises, to get the hell out before sunrise. Relocate the women and children to de-assholification kibbutzim created specifically to derail yet another generation's mind-fucking.

9547bis said:

Which is exactly what a terrorist would do. Welcome aboard, Osama.

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ChaosEngine says...

man, I can't even be bothered derailing that video anymore.

I do think it's odd that @gorillaman accuses anyone who disagrees with him of being "intellectually and morally subhuman" and then calls me "a shallow, gawping spectacle-whore", but somehow I am the one that loves drama.

The strange misapprehension that I give a fuck continues for reasons unknown....

chingalera said:

Stay on the defensive and let's explore this bail-out a bit more please-You chime-in as you are want to do for at least an hour of two a day, you obviously love drama when it's not directed at yourself, and love to stir-up and/or foment self-satisfying discord...HEY, I find your roll somewhat familiar and otherwise stinky and generally foul-tasting on the pallet...Care to defend your manner and comfort-zone??

No protests from a cadre of familiars yet??...Give em a few ticks. We're sure to witness them they'll jump right aboard the boat to Stroke-and-Polish island, where all such balls are caressed and cared-for with covetous enthusiasm...

Russell Brand to Jon Snow; "Listen you, Let me Talk"

chingalera says...

Oh and read your comment, wasn't my intention to derail the thread if anyone could ever blame me for doing so, couldn't agree with you more, Brand was spot-enough on here for the sheit-fest he got a check for in making his daily rounds, and Jon Snows' drinking all the good scotch and eating force-meat liver whilst ordering-out for whatever twisted form of pleasure he demands

bareboards2 said:

This comment stream shows that the interviewer succeeded in what he apparently set out to do -- derail the conversation into something other than what Russell Brand came to talk about.

Changing society's approach to drug laws and drug treatment.

It is a complete canard to say that Brand can't talk about using the existing system to change the drug situation because Brand doesn't like the current system. So what if he doesn't like it? He is going to stop trying to fix things?

So far, all the comments aren't about Brand's perspective on drug laws. They are off and running on a side issue.

And that is how the system doesn't change. False equivalencies, derailment from the topic, and nobody even notices.

Fuck.

Russell Brand to Jon Snow; "Listen you, Let me Talk"

bareboards2 says...

This comment stream shows that the interviewer succeeded in what he apparently set out to do -- derail the conversation into something other than what Russell Brand came to talk about.

Changing society's approach to drug laws and drug treatment.

It is a complete canard to say that Brand can't talk about using the existing system to change the drug situation because Brand doesn't like the current system. So what if he doesn't like it? He is going to stop trying to fix things?

So far, all the comments aren't about Brand's perspective on drug laws. They are off and running on a side issue.

And that is how the system doesn't change. False equivalencies, derailment from the topic, and nobody even notices.

Fuck.

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BoneRemake says...

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Who has the softer heart? (Men or Women?)

Yogi says...

So instead of addressing my concerns about your argument, you go on a diatribe about feminism which essentially derails your own post about how this is about medical research being held back.

You're basically proving that I'm right, you chose this because you wanted a platform to punch feminism in the face, not a venue which you can bring in an informed critique. This was supposed to begin a discussion, not set up your soapbox.

What a worthless fucking stupid cunt you are.

Moyers | P. Krugman on how the US is becoming an oligarchy

ChaosEngine says...

Can we have one discussion on economics without the libertarians derailing it with their nonsense? No-one wants it. Get over it. The rest of the world has learned from history that libertarianism is a fucking disaster when actually implemented.

Earning $200k isn't actually that big a deal. Yeah, you're well off, but you don't have the kind of unbelievably obnoxious level of wealth that the 1% have.

@RedSky 70% isn't hyperbole. Top marginal rate in the US in the 50s was actually 91%.

Ultimately it's an incredibly short sighted position. America has systematically destroyed it's middle class and over time will remove it's own market. Keep going down this track and eventually China owns you.

Street Harassment Of Women In New York - An Art Project

eric3579 says...

Changed it back to my original title (as seen by the url) as the title has kinda derailed the comments and what the video is actually about.
http://videosift.com/video/Street-Harassment-Of-Women-In-New-York-An-Art-Project

Fusionaut said:

*promote for the video, not so much the comments which have veered off course. The title of the video could be "Stop Harassing Women." Telling someone to smile, when she doesn't want to smile, right after you've hit on her, when she doesn't want you to hit on her, is harassment. No one deserves to be treated like that and this video and art project are meant to raise awareness for the issue. Just listen to Tatyana's opening statement.

*equality

On a side note, how cool is it that she's has some Vibes in her apartment?

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HBOs 'Questioning Darwin' - Creationists Talk Creationism

VoodooV says...

while you did need to reign it in there. It wouldn't have happened had not a certain someone completely changed the topic of the sift.

used to be about creationists remember before it got derailed...as usual

BoneRemake said:

@chingalera Pretty much what newt said about tables turned and you crying foul. I have witnessed it many times with you over the years. I do not know you but I " Know " you and I do not like you and last night I had the displeasure of again reading a lazy suzan style emotion. I ignore you out right because I have the personal opinion that any genuine correspondence is not worth the time or effort, To be honest when I see that little email pop up I delete it, when I log in I have you on ignore so I just delete that too, I really do not care what you have to say. It is harsh but simplistic really.

Hope that answers your question, sorry Sift for shitting in the comment thread. One of those situations where - yea I got to express myself, but all in all it was not constructive.



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