@newtboy
@bcglorf


So can we generally agree that:

10% of the Left/Right are radical and way too fucked in the head.

45% of the Left / Right are just gullible people who except what they see on the news, etc.- The Q people waiting for JFK. wow

The remaining actually spend some time and thought into issues at hand.


Finally
Dave Chapel is 1 of the greatest comics of our time.

The cause isn't united either.

Another part of the problem is you have a lot of people like @newtboy who really DO mean defund the police by the dictionary definition. Those folks are mixed in with the protesters who mean 'reform' when they say 'defund'.

That's all to be expected though when you see the systematic failure of the national police force that is out there. When the number of bad actors in the force becomes too many, includes sheriffs and their deputies, and sees various police chiefs and police union leaders(not toe mention Presidents) defending the bad actors, the people that rise up in anger aren't going to be a uniform centrally organized entity.

As Dave Chapelle refers to it, these are the streets speaking for themselves. The public can't be expected to hold a single, uniform and documented solution that they are marching for. It is unfair to the point of dishonesty to try and discredit the protestors as a 'mob' because their calls for reform aren't consistent enough or well messaged enough. The presumably better educated, smarter professionals running the country(from the bottom to the top) are the one's whose job it is to find a good solution. More importantly, it's also their fault for failing to enact solutions to the problem before the public outrage hit the levels it has.

I barely understood what his point is or why Dave Chapelle was "decapitated". He supposedly made 500 Million for Comedy Central and they offered him only 10% instead of 50% and then they made a character attack on him . While Chapelle went to Africa and became a "devout Muslim" and now is back they spread a rumor about cocaine abuse. Haven't heard or read anything about that but ok. Pretty wild story.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^quantumushroom:
WOMEN AREN'T FUNNY. GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN.

Racism gets you banned, but blatant sexism is okay?


No it doesn't, not when its funny as hell. Sorry Boise, I loved this one because it was meant for humor. Also, racism doesn't get you banned. You can post racist videos of humor and regular vids just fine-you just cannot state your own racist opinions. Even if QM wasn't trying to be funny, it was hilarious. Should we ban Dave Chapelle?

Forgot to add ":P"

I'm Black and I don't have much interest in where my ancestors came from. My brother & sisters don't either (& I mean my actual brother & sisters). I can't think of any of my black friends who have any interest in a pilgrimage to their homeland. Some of them pop back to see the relatives sometimes, but that's about it.

However if I go to any big city over here in Europe it's brimming with, mainly American, people who've come to the old country to trace their roots. And I've met people of many shades and nationalities who've arrived here to do that. It's not the bastion of any one race. Don't take a common human impulse you've observed in people who by coincidence are black and tag it to them alone to form part of a 'but black people is weird innit' narrative. This kind of thing makes me sleepy.


>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

In reply to this comment by wraith:
A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.

They have relatives living there.

I understand that.

African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?

I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.

And I don't care.

I don't get it.


I live in England and we are full of Americans & others who's ancestors came from here returning to trace their roots. Same in Scotland, Ireland, Wales and everywhere. It's not a black phenomenon. I as an official negro have no desire to return to my 'homeland'. But it's a pretty common unremarkable and universal human desire.

>> ^vaire2ube:

Hey dude, ask the Jews the same question. You're concerned about tourism... but don't mind Zionism and false birthrights?
You answered your own, really -- first and second generation after being stolen from a country... or, you know, being a human being... might lead you to having a "curiosity" which may be "satisfied" by "exploring" said curiousity.
Or you may be an un-curious "supposer", a theorist who asks "why" without attempting to really understand when the information is right under their own nose... you are employing the tactic of insinuating by asking... you seem to have an issue with "blacks".
maybe try googling your questions?
as a "first worlder" you have that luxury to erase your ignorance at the swipe of some keys. too hard? maybe you should ask why people ask stupid questions in 2012.
that said, lol @ whoever upvoted your comment. you should be shamed into answering your own questions, not supported for your racism.. oh, i mean, "false presumptions". Since you are an admitted "regular" white guy.. i assume you think with your dick and not your brain... im white but i can use google and open my mind to "possibilities"... so i dont think you're all that regular, unless by regular you mean ignorant.


I think you might want to go back and edit that post. It's really hard to read, your point is unclear and I think you meant to accuse @Sagemind (who said he was a regular white guy) instead of @wraith (who never said anything like that).

As to wriaths point, I kind of agree. You cannot lump all of Africa as one culture or ethnicity. That would be the equivalent of a caucasian american going to "europe" to find their roots.

As a white guy from europe, I feel the same way about my heritage: ie who cares?



BUT. There's some social context here, and context is everything. I could go on about it, but I think you know what the salient part is (slavery); you can research it and think about it yourself. I don't know what it's like to be an african american, but I imagine it plays a huge factor in identity and when shit gets heavy, one starts thinking about that stuff. His return to Africa isn't surprising at all, even if I don't fully understand it the way he does.





>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

Hey dude, ask the Jews the same question. You're concerned about tourism... but don't mind Zionism and false birthrights?

You answered your own, really -- first and second generation after being stolen from a country... or, you know, being a human being... might lead you to having a "curiosity" which may be "satisfied" by "exploring" said curiousity.

Or you may be an un-curious "supposer", a theorist who asks "why" without attempting to really understand when the information is right under their own nose... you are employing the tactic of insinuating by asking... you seem to have an issue with "blacks".

maybe try googling your questions?

as a "first worlder" you have that luxury to erase your ignorance at the swipe of some keys. too hard? maybe you should ask why people ask stupid questions in 2012.

that said, lol @ whoever upvoted your comment. you should be shamed into answering your own questions, not supported for your racism.. oh, i mean, "false presumptions". Since you are an admitted "regular" white guy.. i assume you think with your dick and not your brain... im white but i can use google and open my mind to "possibilities"... so i dont think you're all that regular, unless by regular you mean ignorant.


>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

>> ^direpickle:

>> ^wraith:
A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

Your ancestors (probably) weren't torn away from their homeland unwillingly, and you did not grow up somewhere just a hairsbreadth away from deep, institutional racism. Have you ever spent a lot of time somewhere where you were a minority? It's not always terribly comfortable.
That said, someone already mentioned that Chappelle didn't go there for that reason. I don't know if anyone actually does. Is it a thing? But I can absolutely see why someone growing up in America might feel that they need to try to find some connection to where their ancestors came from.
Just guessing. Mostly from Irish/German stock, here. But many generations removed.


You mean like the Puritans, the Protestants, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese, or any of the other religious or ethnic groups that were forced out of their countries?

It's partly because they can go to Africa and be treated as a "normal" human being as many out there aren't aware of our celebrities. And technically we all have roots in Africa >> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.

>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.


Your ancestors (probably) weren't torn away from their homeland unwillingly, and you did not grow up somewhere just a hairsbreadth away from deep, institutional racism. Have you ever spent a lot of time somewhere where you were a minority? It's not always terribly comfortable.

That said, someone already mentioned that Chappelle didn't go there for that reason. I don't know if anyone actually does. Is it a thing? But I can absolutely see why someone growing up in America might feel that they need to try to find some connection to where their ancestors came from.

Just guessing. Mostly from Irish/German stock, here. But many generations removed.

In reply to this comment by brycewi19:
@pumpkinandstorm Chappelle has two "P's".

Thank you.

>> ^wraith:

A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.
They have relatives living there.
I understand that.
African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?
I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.
And I don't care.
I don't get it.


He went to South Africa. IIRC it wasn't anything to do with him being black or having African ancestry. It was just some place where he wasn't famous and could get away from a public that knew him. I figure Europe would have been similar to the US in that regard. Why not go to the east? Maybe not enough English speakers, who knows.

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