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enoch (Member Profile)

Playinwithfire says...

Not my business I know, but ya know me, Im gonna say it anyhow sooo here it goes If changed, like this, its like your speaking in someone elses voice, this is not your voice... It may not be "correct" it is however you, your manner of speaking/communicating in writing. To me its like a vocalist using one of those stupid auto-tune things to change their voice, or syncing to another singers sound. Do not change what there is nothing wrong with, when your lips move, when your fingers touch a keyboard or a pen and paper, THAT is the only voice that should come out, Yours..
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Here you go, you owe me a pot brownie. It's still a little foreboding. I still think you could pare this down quite a bit. When is the deadline for this comment?
enoch said:

NetRunner,
I'll take "I didn't mean to offend you" as an apology for calling schmawy, rasch and myself passive aggressive cowards who dare not say something to your face. You really don't understand, do you? sighs I say this with all sincerity and in the most human way.
What was between you and choggie was only between you and choggie.
Same as with kronos and others. It is not only unfair to lump schmawy, rasch and I into that polemic, but also dishonest. You have even stated, yourself, that we don't have issues with each other - well at least i know i didn't until you called me a pussy - yet you continue to miss the point; a point i grow weary of having to make over and over and over and over and over and over and over due to your prejudices concerning choggie.
I TOTALLY get he was a cock to you and others. I am not dismissing that, nor am I condoning choggie's actions in that regard. I never have, and neither has schmawy or rasch (as far as I know). What you failed to realize in my multitude of posts, is the truth of what I was speaking and that it had only a fraction to do with choggie. Maybe you don't think I am smart enough to make these observations? Maybe the mere mention of the word "choggie" blinds you to them because of your adversarial past with him. I do not know Netrunner, but that is your path to walk. What i DO know, is that what I was trying to say to everyone -which apparently wasn't clear enough based on the responses- is that there is a danger in like-mindedness.
Now we could talk for days about the intricacies of choggie, good and ill, but we are beyond that now. The thing that choggie fought for, though misguided and rudely most of the time, was, and is STILL, a noble thing to fight for.
I see so many people on this site berate (myself included) fundamentalist Christians...
Why? Why do we berate them? Is it ONLY because they seem so close minded? Or that they refuse to recognize facts which may disagree with their dogma? Well of course!.... or at least partially, but the real danger with a fundamentalist is the STAGNATION. The stagnation of mind and spirit. It is death. A very slow and drawn out death.
Would you like to now one of my favorite tactics? (which of course now I am going to have to change since I am posting it here.) I will put out an opposing argument - not because I actually believe that argument, because many times i don't. No..the reason I do that is force someone to challenge my argument, and in doing so, having to defend their own. It also forces them to THINK about how they came to that conclusion, and, in turn, reveals their own thought processes. If they didn't come up with the argument in the first place, then I can easily dismantle it because knowing WHAT means little without the WHY. I vote for every one of blankfists libertarian videos. Does this mean I am libertarian?
No. But, because the sift has become a place where votes are more for "agreement" than for quality or value, many times an unpopular political video needs to be heard, even if I disagree with it. I give away votes like beads to busty co-eds at Mardi Gras. Does this mean I "agree" with every video's content?
Hell. Fucking. No.
There is nothing more satisfying than poppin a vid with 9 votes, or helping a new sifter get a star, or doing a pq dive and finding a gem I can promote; or having a heated argument over something I care about with people I respect. These are good things. Things that make this place special.
You felt that choggie tried to silence you, and that had to have been a crappy feeling, and one that would have pissed me off too. Now imagine being new here and posting a video that gets laughed at and mocked with snide remarks. You are new, and you thought people would love your new christian rock video. I have often seen people shunned and berated for posting things that others either disagree or find laughable, and all it takes is the ONE comment..just one to get the ball rolling and then it's like, "hey whatever happened to so and so?" Am I accusing you of this? No, I've not seen you behave in that manner, but others do. Who are we to judge the value of another's passions, joys or interests as being worthy or unworthy? We should be voting on quality, not to ostracize.
I hope I have made myself clear. If i haven't? Well then kiss my rebel minister ass, cuz I is done with this topic, bitchez.
We cool NetRunner?
Go in peace brother.
Namaste.
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enoch (Member Profile)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Here you go, you owe me a pot brownie.* It's still a little foreboding. I still think you could pare this down quite a bit. When is the deadline for this comment?

enoch said:

NetRunner,
I'll take "I didn't mean to offend you" as an apology for calling schmawy, rasch and myself passive aggressive cowards who dare not say something to your face. You really don't understand, do you? *sighs* I say this with all sincerity and in the most human way.

What was between you and choggie was only between you and choggie.

Same as with kronos and others. It is not only unfair to lump schmawy, rasch and I into that polemic, but also dishonest. You have even stated, yourself, that we don't have issues with each other - well at least i know i didn't until you called me a pussy - yet you continue to miss the point; a point i grow weary of having to make over and over and over and over and over and over and over due to your prejudices concerning choggie.

I TOTALLY get he was a cock to you and others. I am not dismissing that, nor am I condoning choggie's actions in that regard. I never have, and neither has schmawy or rasch (as far as I know). What you failed to realize in my multitude of posts, is the truth of what I was speaking and that it had only a fraction to do with choggie. Maybe you don't think I am smart enough to make these observations? Maybe the mere mention of the word "choggie" blinds you to them because of your adversarial past with him. I do not know Netrunner, but that is your path to walk. What i DO know, is that what I was trying to say to everyone -which apparently wasn't clear enough based on the responses- is that there is a danger in like-mindedness.

Now we could talk for days about the intricacies of choggie, good and ill, but we are beyond that now. The thing that choggie fought for, though misguided and rudely most of the time, was, and is STILL, a noble thing to fight for.

I see so many people on this site berate (myself included) fundamentalist Christians...

Why? Why do we berate them? Is it ONLY because they seem so close minded? Or that they refuse to recognize facts which may disagree with their dogma? Well of course!.... or at least partially, but the real danger with a fundamentalist is the STAGNATION. The stagnation of mind and spirit. It is death. A very slow and drawn out death.

Would you like to now one of my favorite tactics? (which of course now I am going to have to change since I am posting it here.) I will put out an opposing argument - not because I actually believe that argument, because many times i don't. No..the reason I do that is force someone to challenge my argument, and in doing so, having to defend their own. It also forces them to THINK about how they came to that conclusion, and, in turn, reveals their own thought processes. If they didn't come up with the argument in the first place, then I can easily dismantle it because knowing WHAT means little without the WHY. I vote for every one of blankfists libertarian videos. Does this mean I am libertarian?
No. But, because the sift has become a place where votes are more for "agreement" than for quality or value, many times an unpopular political video needs to be heard, even if I disagree with it. I give away votes like beads to busty co-eds at Mardi Gras. Does this mean I "agree" with every video's content?

Hell. Fucking. No.

There is nothing more satisfying than poppin a vid with 9 votes, or helping a new sifter get a star, or doing a pq dive and finding a gem I can promote; or having a heated argument over something I care about with people I respect. These are good things. Things that make this place special.

You felt that choggie tried to silence you, and that had to have been a crappy feeling, and one that would have pissed me off too. Now imagine being new here and posting a video that gets laughed at and mocked with snide remarks. You are new, and you thought people would love your new christian rock video. I have often seen people shunned and berated for posting things that others either disagree or find laughable, and all it takes is the ONE comment..just one to get the ball rolling and then it's like, "hey whatever happened to so and so?" Am I accusing you of this? No, I've not seen you behave in that manner, but others do. Who are we to judge the value of another's passions, joys or interests as being worthy or unworthy? We should be voting on quality, not to ostracize.

I hope I have made myself clear. If i haven't? Well then kiss my rebel minister ass, cuz I is done with this topic, bitchez.

We cool NetRunner?

Go in peace brother.

Namaste.

*This comment may not represent the views of dft comment editing services, Inc.

Parting Words from Choggie (Wildwestshow Talk Post)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Sorry for this tangential interjection, but your poetic text formating is really rough on the eyes for comments this long. It makes me not want to read it. My 2 cents. >> ^enoch:

ok netrunner.
i will take "i didnt mean to offend you" as an apology for calling me,scmawy and rasch passive agressive cowards who refuse to say something to your face.
you really dont have any understanding do you?
sighs..
ok..and i say this with all sincerity and in the most human way.
what was between you and choggie was between you and choggie.same as with krono and others.
it is not only unfair to lump schmawy rasch and i into that polemic but dishonest.
you yourself have stated that all of us dont have a problem with you and vice versa.
well i know i didnt until you called me a pussy.
yet you continue to miss the point.
a point i grow weary of having to make over and over and over due to your prejudices concerning choggie.
i TOTALLY get he was a cock to you..and others.
i am not dismissing that nor am i condoning by my words choggies actions in that regard.
i never have and neither has schmawy nor rasch (not that i have ever seen anyway).
what you failed to realize in my now multiple posts is the truth of what i was speaking and it had only a fraction to do with choggie.
maybe you dont think i am smart enough to make these observations.
maybe just the word "choggie" blinds you to them fueled by your bitter past with him.
i do not know netrunner and that is your path to walk.
what i DO know is that what i was trying and i gather i have failed miserably by yours and others comments,is to reveal to everybody that there is a danger in like-mindedness.
i see so many people berate,me included,fundamentalist christians... because why?
why do we berate them?
is it ONLY because they seem so close minded?
or that they refuse to recognize facts which may disagree with their dogma?
well of course..partially.
but the real danger with a fundamentalist is the STAGNATION.
the stagnation of mind and spirit.
it is death..a very slow and drawn out death.
now we could talk for days the intricacies of choggie.the good and ill but we are past that..
the thing that choggie fought for..misguided and rudely most of the time is STILL a noble thing to fight for.
would you like to now one of my favorite tactics?
which of course now i am going to have to change since i am posting it here.
i will put out an opposing argument that may be going on in comments..
not because i actually believe that argument,many times i dont..
no..the reason i do that is so that somebody will challenge my argument and in doing so have to defend theirs.
and to accomplish that they have to THINK about how they came to that conclusion and it reveals to me their thought processes.
if they didnt come up with the argument in the first place then i can easily dismantle it due to the fact it was never theirs to begin with.
no hurt feelings..well..maybe a bruised ego but that is all and the next time they get challenged you can bet your bippy they will be prepared.
i vote for every one of blankfists libertarian videos.
does this mean i am libertarian?
not really..but since the sift has become a place where votes are seen as "agreeing" or "disagreeing" many times an unpopular political video needs to be heard.even if i disagree with it.
i give away votes like we are living in new orleans and its mardi gras.
does this mean i "agree" with every videos content? hell no.
there is nothing more satisfying than poppin a vid with 9 votes.
or helping a new sifter get a star.or doing a pq dive and finding a gem i can promote.
or having a heated argument over something i care about with people i respect.
these are good things.
things that make this place special.
you felt that choggie tried to silence you and that had to have been a crappy feeling and one that would have pissed me off.
you have every right to be pissed but thats your deal with choggie.
now you may sift differently and probably do.
but i sift my way and thats how i enjoy this site but i have seen people shunned and berated for posting things that others either disagree or find laughable.
and all it takes is the ONE comment..just one.
and then the ball starts rolling and then we wonder..hey whatever happened to so and so?
remember how choggie made you FEEL.
now imagine being new here and posting a video that gets laughed at..snide remarks.
your new..you thought people would love your new christian rock video.
am i accusing you of this? no..i have never seen you behave in that manner but i have seen others.
who are you..or i for that matter to judge anothers passions,joys or interests as worthy or unworthy?
we vote on quality not to ostrasize.
maybe my fears are unfounded or misguided but i dont think they are.
the comments you have made have proven that to me.
i hope i have made myself clear.
if i havent well..tough titties cuz i am done with this subject.
we are cool netrunner.
go in peace brother.
namaste.

Parting Words from Choggie (Wildwestshow Talk Post)

enoch says...

ok netrunner.
i will take "i didnt mean to offend you" as an apology for calling me,scmawy and rasch passive agressive cowards who refuse to say something to your face.
you really dont have any understanding do you?
sighs..
ok..and i say this with all sincerity and in the most human way.
what was between you and choggie was between you and choggie.same as with krono and others.
it is not only unfair to lump schmawy rasch and i into that polemic but dishonest.
you yourself have stated that all of us dont have a problem with you and vice versa.
well i know i didnt until you called me a pussy.
yet you continue to miss the point.
a point i grow weary of having to make over and over and over due to your prejudices concerning choggie.
i TOTALLY get he was a cock to you..and others.
i am not dismissing that nor am i condoning by my words choggies actions in that regard.
i never have and neither has schmawy nor rasch (not that i have ever seen anyway).
what you failed to realize in my now multiple posts is the truth of what i was speaking and it had only a fraction to do with choggie.
maybe you dont think i am smart enough to make these observations.
maybe just the word "choggie" blinds you to them fueled by your bitter past with him.
i do not know netrunner and that is your path to walk.
what i DO know is that what i was trying and i gather i have failed miserably by yours and others comments,is to reveal to everybody that there is a danger in like-mindedness.
i see so many people berate,me included,fundamentalist christians... because why?
why do we berate them?
is it ONLY because they seem so close minded?
or that they refuse to recognize facts which may disagree with their dogma?
well of course..partially.
but the real danger with a fundamentalist is the STAGNATION.
the stagnation of mind and spirit.
it is death..a very slow and drawn out death.
now we could talk for days the intricacies of choggie.the good and ill but we are past that..
the thing that choggie fought for..misguided and rudely most of the time is STILL a noble thing to fight for.
would you like to now one of my favorite tactics?
which of course now i am going to have to change since i am posting it here.
i will put out an opposing argument that may be going on in comments..
not because i actually believe that argument,many times i dont..
no..the reason i do that is so that somebody will challenge my argument and in doing so have to defend theirs.
and to accomplish that they have to THINK about how they came to that conclusion and it reveals to me their thought processes.
if they didnt come up with the argument in the first place then i can easily dismantle it due to the fact it was never theirs to begin with.
no hurt feelings..well..maybe a bruised ego but that is all and the next time they get challenged you can bet your bippy they will be prepared.
i vote for every one of blankfists libertarian videos.
does this mean i am libertarian?
not really..but since the sift has become a place where votes are seen as "agreeing" or "disagreeing" many times an unpopular political video needs to be heard.even if i disagree with it.
i give away votes like we are living in new orleans and its mardi gras.
does this mean i "agree" with every videos content? hell no.
there is nothing more satisfying than poppin a vid with 9 votes.
or helping a new sifter get a star.or doing a pq dive and finding a gem i can promote.
or having a heated argument over something i care about with people i respect.
these are good things.
things that make this place special.
you felt that choggie tried to silence you and that had to have been a crappy feeling and one that would have pissed me off.
you have every right to be pissed but thats your deal with choggie.
now you may sift differently and probably do.
but i sift my way and thats how i enjoy this site but i have seen people shunned and berated for posting things that others either disagree or find laughable.
and all it takes is the ONE comment..just one.
and then the ball starts rolling and then we wonder..hey whatever happened to so and so?
remember how choggie made you FEEL.
now imagine being new here and posting a video that gets laughed at..snide remarks.
your new..you thought people would love your new christian rock video.
am i accusing you of this? no..i have never seen you behave in that manner but i have seen others.
who are you..or i for that matter to judge anothers passions,joys or interests as worthy or unworthy?
we vote on quality not to ostrasize.
maybe my fears are unfounded or misguided but i dont think they are.
the comments you have made have proven that to me.
i hope i have made myself clear.
if i havent well..tough titties cuz i am done with this subject.
we are cool netrunner.
go in peace brother.
namaste.

ant (Member Profile)

Natural Morality

poolcleaner says...

>> ^mxxcon:
see, your logic fails to explain contradictions.
but when i say jesus made them that way, it's perfectly logical and acceptable.
therefore, god wins.


Therefore God Wins is going to be the name of my Christian rock band, if I ever start one.

Converting a Young Earth Preacher to Atheism (Blog Entry by dag)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Other tough questions:

-Revelations: Why would a loving God engage in this kind of genocide?
-Noah's Ark: Again, what's up with God mass murdering 99.9 percent of his creations?
-The Fall: Why would a loving God punish all humans for the flaws of his prototypes?
-Jesus: What was the point of all that pomp and circumstance?
-Jealous God: Why is God described in the Bible as Jealous? Isn't that a petty emotion for such a powerful being? Why would God overlook the good deeds of people who do not believe in him because of this jealously?
-Cultures: Why did the Judeo/Christian God not make himself known to all cultures?
-Tower of Babel: Do you really believe that all humans at one time spoke the same language? Did God create Esparanto? What about Kingon?
-Eating shellfish, wearing garments of more than one type of cloth are abominations in the eyes of the Lord; do you engage in these activities?
-No new miracles: God used to do awesome shit all the time in Bible days; why hasn't he done cool shit lately, within the last 2 millenia?
-Why do we have 'tailbones'? Why do some people have vestigial tails?
-Does God send people that are unaware of Christianity to hell?
-Suffering, disease, starvation, birth defects, Dinosaur bones, Christian rock, etc......

Greatest wedding procession ever

kymbos says...

Two minutes in, and this is the most painful thing I've sat through in a while, and I like test cricket!

I bet they played christian rock at the reception.

There is one redeeming feature, however - no 80s 'retro' dance moves.

Christian Rock: Condoms Are Not Safe!

Pour It Out For Ecstacy Jesus Girl!

Desviada says...

This and her other videos are quite boring. Or maybe I just got enough of giggly, hysterical Jesus freaks (as they prefer to be called) during my years of youth group. If you think this is funny you should go to a Christian rock festival.

Atheism WTF? (Wtf Talk Post)

volumptuous says...

It's called non-theist. I am one because I want nothing to do with any form of religion. It is of zero interest to me. And the historical record of religion on this planet leaves a bloody taste in my mouth.

There aren't any decent pro-religion videos here for exactly the same reason that christian rock sucks dog balls.

Christian Rock: Condoms Are Not Safe!

Christian Rock: Condoms Are Not Safe!

Christian Rock: Condoms Are Not Safe!

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