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AI vs. AI

Ariane (Member Profile)

Peroxide says...

Haha, interesting. Of course you realize, I must assume that because you admit you are a lazy programmer, this might not even be a comment by you, it might be some sort of sophisticated videosifting AI. (Not the lame kind like siftbot...)

I submit exhibit A: (a quote from your program.) "You: do you video sift?
Ariane: Yes I try to video sift as often as possible, do you?"

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In reply to this comment by Peroxide:
I for one, would like to hear from a programmer who know the more intimate details of cleverbot's program.

For instance, the male lies calling himself a unicorn, and the female challenges his fib. Why? Are they programed to make minor mistakes/ not be entirely logical? What is the philosophy behind their programming...


As someone who has programmed a chatbot (not cleverbot, but one based on ALICE, mine can be found here) I can answer that for you.

The philosophy behind their programming is that it would take years of complicated programming to make them sound even remotely logical, and we are way too lazy to do that much work.

AI vs. AI

AI vs. AI

Ariane says...

>> ^Peroxide:

I for one, would like to hear from a programmer who know the more intimate details of cleverbot's program.
For instance, the male lies calling himself a unicorn, and the female challenges his fib. Why? Are they programed to make minor mistakes/ not be entirely logical? What is the philosophy behind their programming...


As someone who has programmed a chatbot (not cleverbot, but one based on ALICE, mine can be found here) I can answer that for you.

The philosophy behind their programming is that it would take years of complicated programming to make them sound even remotely logical, and we are way too lazy to do that much work.

Peroxide (Member Profile)

Ariane says...

In reply to this comment by Peroxide:
I for one, would like to hear from a programmer who know the more intimate details of cleverbot's program.

For instance, the male lies calling himself a unicorn, and the female challenges his fib. Why? Are they programed to make minor mistakes/ not be entirely logical? What is the philosophy behind their programming...


As someone who has programmed a chatbot (not cleverbot, but one based on ALICE, mine can be found here) I can answer that for you.

The philosophy behind their programming is that it would take years of complicated programming to make them sound even remotely logical, and we are way too lazy to do that much work.

AI vs. AI

AI vs. AI

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gwiz665 says...

Most "weak AI" or narrow AI is used in games or for very specific purposes. There are very few that have grasped at the complexity of a general, strong AI. The main reason, as far as I can see, is that it is really, really, really complex and therefore hard to do. As soon as you up the complexity, the human error margin rises a bunch. Just look at games, which are nowhere near as complex, there are always bugs.

Any commercial physics engine (havok, PhysX etc.) are not based on the actual laws of physics, they use simplified rules that gives a similar behavior, but with a much better performance.

The argument that programming languages don't know any more than we do is a faulty one, that's like saying that our natural language is limited by our knowledge or that we can only express the math we know. There have been plenty of mathematical discoveries, which are expressed just fine in the mathematical language, so there is no reason why we should not be able to express an algorithmic solution to any turing-complete language.

All the, usually chatbots, AI's who are claimed to be "human emulators" are in fact not. They have a very narrow application, processing language and making a "reasonable" response.

I agree that we need to research the human mind, but I'm not sure we're going to find any magic there, which is inherent to the way the brain is built, I think it is far more likely that we will find that it builds on similar principles as what we now know as weak AI, but that the complexity is insanely higher.

Neural networks can run on a turing machine as well, and most scientists agree that we indeed have neural networks in our brain, so there's no reason to dismiss that we can run a brain in a computer as such.

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paul4dirt says...

would be great if siftbot, or chatbot, could roll dice! just like the chatbot on KoL. more KoL inspired features on here would be greatly appreciated

(+ they have a kinda similar 'business model', a great community and on top of that, a crazy amount of absurd humor)

MINK (Member Profile)

quantumushroom says...

First and foremost, please stop taking anything personally. I'm not your enemy, nor am I about to change your mind on anything.

You ASKED for my opinion regarding where *I* thought you stood on the spectrum of political beliefs and I gave it to you. I make no claims to accuracy. You obviously have particular opinions about who *I* am and what I stand for. If YOU know what you believe, then you shouldn't overly care what others believe.

America has the right to protect its interests abroad. If you want to take delight in what you consider hypocrisy, that's your right.

You're an expatriate, are you not? If you rejected your country of origin, its history and culture, then I'm not going to convince you of America's greatness, or try.

Until next time? qm

In reply to this comment by MINK:
That's it man, you've put one too many words in my mouth, i can't be bothered to discuss with you any more, because it's like you're an artificial intelligence chatbot with a limited number of algorithms and all your answers are now starting to be "does not compute" followed by a change of subject or false accusation....

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lucky760 says...

2) See discards in our own and other profiles
You already can.

there's no way of accessing the top 15 (front and queue) as a full blown list
You're right. There used to be a way (by going to the Top Videos tab and selecting the last week), but we adjusted the sidebar top 15 to the last 4 days and didn't adjust the Top Videos tab accordingly.

I like the idea of Chatbot. I've always loved robots that talk to you.

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