>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

5 quid says the game will be full of the same lame religious crap that ruined the last two seasons of the show. Spoiler alert: God did it.


Ya, that wouldn't of even been bad if they did it cleverly. I don't know how they were able to take killer robots that wipe out humanity, and turn them into such pussies. The first 2 seasons are legendary television, the third season starts out strong, but, to me, is the end of what made BSG great. From there, you go to episodic non-sense with no real since of overall story telling. I mean, the first 2 seasons had all sorts of neat religious interplay; was the 9 in his head an angel, what's the deal with the cylon faith, what's the deal with cobal and earth? They manage to drop the ball on nearly every question, and by drop the ball, I mean answer the question in such a trite way as to ruin all the tension built up over the course of years.

Ahhh rant over...I try and pretend that seasons 1-2 are the only ones that happened then the show got canceled. I am conformable with this state of denial.

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Noooo, Adamaaaa! I trusted you!!!

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I won't give anything away then! Well except ADAMA is a cylon! Oops, wrong show. The show is rather tedious at times, it is like a slower version of BSG. In fact, its like if you slammed BSG and Star Trek next generation together.

I won't give anything away then! Well except ADAMA is a cylon! Oops, wrong show. The show is rather tedious at times, it is like a slower version of BSG. In fact, its like if you slammed BSG and Star Trek next generation together.

I agree with @NetRunner. The movieline "answers" are a snarky list of "So what?"

I now get the flash sideways thing, and I actually like that when they die they all meet in this place that exists indifferent to space/time. But a cool melodramatic tearjerking ending where everyone is rejoined in the afterlife (Except for the black people. What's up with that?) does not excuse the show creators from paying off the nearly countless mysteries they set up.

And I disagree with @dystopianfuturetoday, the BSG ending was not great but it was at least satisfying. They didn't leave any unanswered questions, as far as I remember. Sure their answers were arguably lazy, but at least they were answers!

My take on the ending was the same as Sarzy's. What happened on the island really happened, and what happened in the alternate reality was not purgatory or punishment, it was more of a Coda. The love fest in the sanctuary at the end was way too happy and non-denominational to be mistaken for grim Catholic mythology.

In general, I found the show to be more of a wild, unpredictable ride than a tight believable narrative. At many points in the show, the writers were clearly making it up as they went, but because of the creativity of the writers and the strength of the characters, it worked just fine. Most of the unanswered questions probably had no real answers to begin with. The writers just thought it would be cool to put a four toed statue and a couple of polar bears* on the island. Fair enough, coolness is cool.

BSG, on the other hand, took it's story and characters much more seriously. The narrative was much tighter, making a satisfying ending that much more important to me and tougher for the writers - and boy did they fail badly.

Lost avoided those expectations. Lost managed to stretch my suspended disbelief so far (without alienating me), that they could have pretty much done whatever they wanted with the ending, as long as it was cool, exiting, suspenseful, weird or otherwise entertaining. So the ending didn't carry the same importance for me as it did for BSG.

Anyway, those hours watching Lost were well spent, and the finale was a nice way to say goodbye to the lovable and lovably hateable characters that brought this thing to life.

KP, you'd probably dig this show if you gave it a chance. I felt the same way that you did, but quickly changed my mind last august when it came to Netflix streaming. It's a very unique show that can't really be understood without jumping in feet first.

*Yes, I know they explained the polar bears**.
**They were used for experiments carried out by the Dharma initiative.

First of all, spoiler alert above please.

As someone who viciously hated the ending of Battlestar Galactica, I gotta say that this ending was far better. I gotta gather my thoughts a bit more and watch it again to make more pieces fit, but all in all, I have a good feeling about it.

Lost was always a show that showed and used supernatural elements, so the ending felt natural to me. In BSG the show prided itself on being more "tied to our reality" and turned on its head and fucked us over.

Lost ii a character study with a MacGuffin plot line.

RedSky is correct. I seen more animes with better resolving plots then US TV.

I was hoping BSG was not going to be like that, am still pretty mad because it seemed like they did have this master storyline. Ah the waste of time.

@arvana & @Drax up till now it's been great. If the ending sucks as bad as BSG I'll jump off a tall, uhm, chair. And rage on the internet.

I'm expecting it to be awesome, though.

Tune in and who's in my face? BSG's Admiral Cain (Michelle Forbes) disguised as a Bajoran aboard Enterprise.

I didn't know that Colonial Fleet infiltrated Starfleet.

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Same as Dystopian, I loved D&D at the time, but found the cartoon to be weak. I never really got into any Saturday morning stuff. Robotech was like a drug to me.

My favorite fictional shows over time have been:
The 80's Twiligh Zones (first two seasons)
Max Headroom
The Indiana Jones Chronicles - The teen years with the WWI stuff, not the little kid episodes.
(Indiana Jones was actually a real eye opener with an episode that had a character talking about how war equates to profits. Another episode going on about the philosophy of how the average person would never murder anyone, but put them in an army and they'll do it out of a sense of duty)
MST3K
ST: TNG
Red Dwarf
Babylon 5
BSG
24

For the most part I believe those shows where attempts to make good television for the sake of good television. I notice 24 has the occasional right or left wing issue thrown in, but it's rather passive.

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I think I've mentioned this before but religion in SF can be done really well. See Mary Doria Russell's The Sparrow for an example of that. I don't think it's done well in BSG universe, however- so I'll agree with you locally- but not globally.>> ^Enzoblue:
Get your fucking religion out of my sci-fi. It's so damn disappointing. New worlds, incredibly jaw-dropping technological advances, and they're still swinging dead chickens over their heads and praying like third world idiots. These writers are such fucking cowards.

Yeah, Event Horizon does the sci fi horror damn well. The problem with the way sunshine does it, is that it tries to be something different and then sorta falls back on blood and gore. That's sorta my main gripe with battlestar galactica, it tried really hard to be a story about people with realistic sci-fi, and then suddenly veers off and becomes something completely different.

Event Horizon is a sci-fi horror flick and it knows it. The same way Lost is supernatural, where it doesn't feel bad the way it does in BSG.

Event Horizon's idea of hell reminds me a lot of Warhammer 40k, with living ships and chaos and so on.

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Event Horizon is pure badace. I saw it originally on a humongous screen with a bass system so loud the seats shook when the asteroid at the beginning passes in front of the camera.

The spinning shot of Daylight Station actually gave me a sense of vertigo.. then the scary parts eventually came.

Then I got to go home to my little cabin like home in an area that had no street lights, and my roommate was out of town.

Very few movies get under my skin, that one did.. big time. I cry a little inside whenever I hear a fellow geek bash that movie.

...oh and I love the little connections to Hellraiser.
"Hell is but a word.. the truth is much... much worse."

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I liked this movie apart from the last part, where it goes all slasher/horror, which is at odds with the rest of it, I think.

In related news, Event Horizon is the most awesomest spacy scifi slasher horror movie ever made! (Apart from alien.)

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@Xax. Yep, this is my feeling as well. I didn't mind the supernatural aspects at all. It was the deception that there was a grand over-arching story that that they had a resolution for. All of the promos towards the end kept harping on the "all will be revealed" theme- and then ... at the end- what is revealed is that they had no idea how the story could resolve - and slapped together something horrible to try to fill in all the ugly, ugly plot holes they had created. Poor storytelling and, yes, a betrayal of fans who stuck with the show.

Here was my post-mortem from back in the day:
http://blog.videosift.com/dag/Finally-Finished-BSG