Why is Peter sodomizing Brian?

Whether you think he used the word holocaust correctly or not (and no, he didn't), it basically gave anyone who might disagree with his statement an easy way to dismiss it. It's a strategical error, if nothing else.

Leaving The Holocaust out of this for the moment, why is the word incorrect? Because there's no great destruction causing the widespread loss of life and there's definitely no fire. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was a holocaust. 9/11 could be considered a holocaust. The siege of Waco could be considered a holocaust. The battle of Mabila, the Mystic massacre and the sleeping village massacre were holocausts. This is people dying because they have inadequate health care.

Calling it a holocaust is just dramatization.

These are the people who, when Finland elected the current (female) President, Tarja Halonen, said they would come to Helsinki and protest by burning the Finnish flag as a metaphor for how nations that embrace sin, like Sodom and Gomorrah did, will burn in flames. Presumably this was because Halonen had previously served as the president of SETA, the largest gay, lesbian and trans- rights group in Finland. (A fact, by the way, I don't recall anyone making an issue of in Finland itself.) They never showed up though.

Sodom and Gonorrhea

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>> ^hpqp:
Yeah, the double cherry on top incest finale is sorely missing from this epic tale of morality!

Yeah, I mean wtf is he going to do with a pile of salt for a wife?!!!11 Good thing he had daughters, I guess? But really, he's the only guy in town who's not gay and god can't even give him a son. What's is up with that?

To the LDS church, Prop 8 is a moral issue. Which is why they are so against it. Just read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

It seems like the outrage level is high enough that law enforcement is getting involved, and I wouldn't be surprised if the media doesn't pick this up. They love featuring shit from the internet.

Until these assholes are properly arrested, arraigned, prosecuted, convicted, confined, and sodomized, let's all just focus on this:



Edit: from the Reddit postings, it's unclear whether the victim survived or not.

>> ^Fusionaut:
if you never delete you emails (like me) you might still have the registration confirmation! I'll have to check mine.

Excellent tip, mate. 01/19/08 at 5:07pm. And sodomized by Choggie's profile comment at 10:13pm ...

That said: wtf, I've been around slightly longer than rasch and ac and only recently surpassed the magic 100. You blokes are loonies!

Testament were one of the Big Four of thrash metal, so they were in place there with Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth... I've seen this argued a lot on other metal forums, and those four names always come up as being official.

Kind of like the big four of thrash in Europe goes Kreator, Tankard, Sodom, Destruction

I hear they're hiring in the cities, Sodom and Gomorrah.

I think making any argument for or against pornography right now requires that you make a lot of assumptions about the psychological impact that working in the sex trade has on people. For instance, I'm pretty sure I'd be emotionally scarred if I had to slaughter cows for a living but that doesn't mean the emotional impact would be the same for everyone else. I deal with this by not getting a job that requires me to kill cows. For the record, I don't even like cows.

The point is, there's a lot that needs to be carefully considered and we don't have answers to most of the major questions. It's likely that any gut emotional instinct you have for either side of the argument is probably somewhat incorrect.

Try taking a step back from your preconceived ideas on this issue and consider carefully how well founded your arguments are. As soon as I'm personally no longer being sodomized daily by coporate America to earn a paycheck I plan to really think about this issue myself.

this is interesting and has me thinking about this: same sex rape is a side effect of captivity. it wasnt designed this way by the power structure. its happened through out time, it happens in nature. it just is.

but, have we designed our prison system (intentionally or unintentionally) to promote and perpetuate this? are they doing anything to curb it? (i honestly have no idea)

personally i think the prison system needs to be completely revamp or abolished. but im a complacent anarchist and realize noone agrees with me.

is fear of punishment really a deterent to crime for real criminals?
(id say a nonviolent drug offense is not a crime. but since it apparently is, i certainly think being locked up and made someones bitch for a few years is NOT an appropriate punishment, this needs to change. immediately)
im trying think if fear of the law has ever stopped me from doing something? i dont think so. my own sense of morality has. and fear of how the people who matter in my life will feel has. but not the law. (and i have done some horrible horrible things)
"oh judge, your damn laws, the good people dont need em and the bad people dont follow em" - ammon hennacy
thats a pretty good summation.

so, have we designed our prison system to promote and perpetuate rape? or are we just not creative enough to think of ways to prevent this? i definently get the feeling that society feels its an appropriate punishment for criminals, its even a huge joke.

as far as threats of buttrape being used to intimidate suspects by the legal system. i can answer this with a yes. absolutely it is. my exhusband was "threatened" with this, old "associates" have been threatened with this during interrogations. in different counties, districts, states.

and it happens in lady prison as well. i know girls who went to prison for drug offenses and had been raped with broomsticks, tampons, plungers, hair brushes, fists .. you name it.. by fellow inmates.

i feel like male on male rape is more disturbing to people than its female equivolent.

so... hmm.. yes i feel institutionalized rape is being used as a silent, omnious threat to criminals and society as a whole by the institution by the media and by the public itself and deter criminal activity.
this may not seem so terrible but think of non violent relatively benign things you can be imprisoned for. yep. its a problem.


as far as the situation of your intervention perhaps the threats from DA were inappropriate, but your mommy im sure was just trying to save your life and the DA was just trying to help his friend. hyperbolic, inappropriate.. it doesnt really matter when a moms trying to save her son.
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im not trying to condone the subject of this video at all...

but as an aside, do you think that male-on-male rape in our own western prisons is a form of 'corrective' punishment, or at least a very real threat in imposing proper comportment and coercing us to bide by current legislation?

as an example... in my college days i got in a bit of trouble with cocaine - not in the buying/selling/etc part, but in simply becoming addicted to it and having my family find out...

my mom was a well-known lawyer in a long-time relationship with a powerful district judge, and the district attorney was my grandfather's former law partner -- so together they held a drug intervention for me...

aside from the shame i felt, nothing made as strong an impression on me at that meeting as having all three: mom, judge and da... tell me how if i didn't quit and enter rehab, that they would catch me, throw the book at me, and have me locked up in the local prison - they went on to detail how a cute, slim white boy like myself would be anally and orally sodomized while being a ward of the state's penal system

now, i realize that my circumstance was rather unique... but do you think that the same sort of threats, even tauntings, are being used casually by our own police forces, states' attorneys, judges, and correctional officers with the 'strangers' they deal with in the course of their work?

if you can imagine that the above is possible and even probable, then haven't 'we' consentually institutionalized such barbarity as a likely punishment for those who may have fallen afoul of some state or federal statute?

i dunno... maybe im off-base -- but as ive grown older, and not gotten in any other trouble, i still look back on that situation and wonder if such threats were: A. hyperbolic or fallacious (i neither consort with law enforcement nor frequent criminal court cases, but i have seen/heard these sorts of threats made in the media), B. worthy of the trust i had in those individuals (and that we all should have in our government), and C. inappropriate in that applying illegal punishment for illegal behavior doesn't exactly send the right message

thoughts?

im not trying to condone the subject of this video at all...

but as an aside, do you think that male-on-male rape in our own western prisons is a form of 'corrective' punishment, or at least a very real threat in imposing proper comportment and coercing us to bide by current legislation?

as an example... in my college days i got in a bit of trouble with cocaine - not in the buying/selling/etc part, but in simply becoming addicted to it and having my family find out...

my mom was a well-known lawyer in a long-time relationship with a powerful district judge, and the district attorney was my grandfather's former law partner -- so together they held a drug intervention for me...

aside from the shame i felt, nothing made as strong an impression on me at that meeting as having all three: mom, judge and da... tell me how if i didn't quit and enter rehab, that they would catch me, throw the book at me, and have me locked up in the local prison - they went on to detail how a cute, slim white boy like myself would be anally and orally sodomized while being a ward of the state's penal system

now, i realize that my circumstance was rather unique... but do you think that the same sort of threats, even tauntings, are being used casually by our own police forces, states' attorneys, judges, and correctional officers with the 'strangers' they deal with in the course of their work?

if you can imagine that the above is possible and even probable, then haven't 'we' consentually institutionalized such barbarity as a likely punishment for those who may have fallen afoul of some state or federal statute?

i dunno... maybe im off-base -- but as ive grown older, and not gotten in any other trouble, i still look back on that situation and wonder if such threats were: A. hyperbolic or fallacious (i neither consort with law enforcement nor frequent criminal court cases, but i have seen/heard these sorts of threats made in the media), B. worthy of the trust i had in those individuals (and that we all should have in our government), and C. inappropriate in that applying illegal punishment for illegal behavior doesn't exactly send the right message

thoughts?

>> ^nomino:
>> ^Jaace:
if this IS real...then WoW is clearly like heroine.

Have you ever sucked dick for WoW?


ROFL, well I've seen a kid try to sodomize himself with a remote for WoW...even those this is probably fake.

Also, I've seen real freak-out videos and they aren't much less of a freak-out than this one. I am sticking with WoW = video-game *drugs.