And let's be honest. If Ralph Nader hadn't stepped in, GM would still be making cars like this for profits' sake.

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I don't think that "lesser of two evils" is the correct characterisation of voter behaviour over the last couple of decades. I'm sure you've seen Colbert's timely video on Nader. It's currently right over there in the sidebar ---->

Nader was an idealistic stand against the establishment for many people. The result was that it lost Gore the presidency and gave us Bush and Cheney for 8 years. In my opinion, the worst presidential period in my lifetime.

Vote idealistically if you want– me, I'll be holding my nose trying to fend off the apocalypse.

Nader on Clinton

*related=http://videosift.com/video/Ralph-Nader-on-Hillary-Clintons-Transparency-1

A Man Named Ralph Nader has been added as a related post - related requested by PlayhousePals on that post.

Ralph Nader on Hillary Clinton's Transparency has been added as a related post - related requested by PlayhousePals.

I have always liked Ralph.

Remember Howard Stern's movie "Private Parts"? a quote:
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit: How could this be?
Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."

Maybe Trump has the same thing going for him. He's crazy enough and ego-inflated enough to serve the "Ross Perot" or "Ralph Nader" role in losing the election for his party.

I'm all in favor of that, as someone who would tend to agree with a lot of the foundation principles of the Republican party, like "small government" and "fiscal conservatism". The problem is that the modern Republican party has exchanged those "foundation principles" with batshit crazy counterparts. It needs to go ahead and implode already to let some measure of sanity back in.

I spend a not inconsiderable amount of time trying to convince people to pronounce my name "Raif" instead of "Ralf" (Spelt Ralph...). It's made worse because I have never been able to find an explanation as to why there is an old English tradition of pronouncing it this way. The etymology of the name is no help, I can only assume that somebody mistook an l for i at some point and it stuck. Which is stupid. Not as stupid as "Ralf" sounds to me though, even if it makes more sense.

I still need to see Wreck it Ralph.

ughhhh. The premise has potential, but then they've given it to Adam Sandler.

Nope.

I'll just watch Wreck it Ralph again instead.

And between this, X-men and Destiny, I'm starting to think Peter Dinklage just got really lucky with Tyrion, because he's displayed an alarming lack of taste since GoT.

I'm happy to call the guy in the middle, Ralph Abraham, my friend. A truly brilliant and kind man and scholar.

It's no Gervais. Really nice on Bill Cosby, possibly wanted more on civil rights movement with all the insanely racist stuff going on though.

That Grand Budapest Hotel was brilliant though - it could have so easily been a disaster with the pacing and the atmosphere and style.. Ralph Fiennes gets huge, huge kudos from me.. Daniel Day-Lewis level stuff.

I agree she'd probably be better than Hilary, and probably more electable too as the right (especially the Tea Party) hate's Hilary and Bill so much they'd pull out all the stops to make sure Hilary lost. They'd probably come out in force against Warren as well, but the loss wouldn't be as big. I'd say the progressive's best hope lies with Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich (oh to dream) or some other high end member of the CPC. Bernie has explored the option, but unless he's willing to run on the Democrat ticket, I'd think it'd end up hurting the progressive cause due to the first past the post voting system we're stuck using here. Ralph Nader would be another good option, but again, he'd have to run the Democrat ticket, which is unlikely. I could see Sanders coming to the Democrat ticket if they'd put him on the main post, with Warren as VP perhaps...

I think the Democratic voters failed to turn out for a few reasons. All the media made it seem like it was going to be a Republican win, even the "liberal media" was portraying it that way. This led to a defeatist "what can I do?" mentality. Another is that Democrats failed to really push a couple key issues, namely raising the minimum wage and equal pay for equal work. Heck, even just saying that minimum wage will be tied to inflation and go up with inflation each yet, even if it isn't fully adjusted to where it would be now, would have been a big step forward. They shied away from those, just like when they passed Obamacare they shied away from single payer or the government option that was promised and instead gave us an old Republican plan under the assumption Republicans would be glad the Democrats caved in and accepted a Republican idea.

The Democrats failed to deliver largely because Republican obstructionism. This isn't to absolve them of their failure during the two years they could have really moved forward with a true progressive agenda.

Fox News and the pulpit have the Republican voter base convinced to vote Republican, that Obama is singlehandedly destroying America (I'm surrounded by these people every day, I have to unfortunately live with them, I used to be a right wing, Christian Republican myself, then became a right wing Christian Libertarian before I actually started applying real critical thought to the economic impact of the policies as society stands now and became more Liberal). The pulpit has convinced these people that it doesn't matter Jesus said to help the needy and the poor, to heal the sick, and basically everything 100% opposite of the beliefs of the Republican party, to vote Republican anyhow, and it to be the Christian vote. They deny being Christian Reconstructionist while being clearly Reconstructionist. They say things like "if you actually think about it critically, CO2 is good for plants, so their argument is silly" and they accept it, because plants absorb CO2 they think that CO2 emissions can't be as bad as the environmentalist say it is, after all, greenhouses pump CO2 into them to make plants grow better. Again I was guilty of repeating that sort of non-sense. Then it occurred to me there are no walls around plants in the wild, there is no ceiling to help keep CO2 near where plants are, and the fact that very little of the Earth is filled with green (let alone the fact most plants are doing as much CO2 exchange as they can already).... that most of the Earth is blue... that yes the ocean absorbs CO2, but in doing to warms it and that drives massive changes including storms in of itself and learned the real consequences of CO2 emissions.

As Ralph Nader recently pointed out (http://videosift.com/video/Ralph-Nader-on-GOP-8482-s-2014-Wins) the Democrats can't just blame Citizens United or attempts by Republicans to try and limit voting among the poor, they have to take a look at the fact they didn't push the issues that most Americans stand behind but didn't push.

I like the idea of moving elections to the weekend. That probably would help more than some calls of late to make it a Federal Holiday. Most places don't close on Federal Holiday's anyhow, so that won't really help as much as moving it to a weekend... of course one could also argue that people might not want to take time out of their weekends to vote.